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Re: The unwarranted scrolling assumption

From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: Re: The unwarranted scrolling assumption
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:51:20 +0300

> From: Stefan Monnier <address@hidden>
> Cc: address@hidden
> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:30:11 -0400
> > According to my reading, it stops the search for point if it is more
> > than 10 lines below (resp above) the scroll margin.  The reason is
> > speed, as the comment says.  Can we safely assume that whoever sets
> > scroll-conservatively to the maximum value gives up this speed
> > consideration?
> I think so, yes.

OK.  I installed a change along these lines (revno 100619).  It
actually goes a tad farther, in that it computes the limit for
searching for point from the values of scroll-conservatively and
scroll-step, even when scroll-conservatively is less than
most-positive-fixnum, instead of using an arbitrary limit of 10 screen

Would people who customize these variables (and those who use
scroll-*-aggressively) please see if the new behavior is to their

Btw, the limit of 10 screen lines comes from this change:

  2008-10-27  Chong Yidong  <address@hidden>

          * xdisp.c (try_scrolling): When computing the distance from the
          scroll margin to PT, try moving some distance past the window
          bottom before giving up.

Interestingly, this change introduced an asymmetry between scrolling
down and up: there's no such limitation in the latter case.

The archives of emacs-devel do not reveal any details beyond the fact
that this was done to prevent some jumpy scrolling.  Perhaps Yidong
can shed more light on why this was done back then.  (The reason I
care is that I'd like to make sure my change now doesn't break
anything, since the emacs-devel archives don't show any test cases.)

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