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Re: more on anything.el inclusion

From: Dan Nicolaescu
Subject: Re: more on anything.el inclusion
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 12:02:59 -0400
User-agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux)

Thierry Volpiatto <address@hidden> writes:

> Dan Nicolaescu <address@hidden> writes:
>> Thierry Volpiatto <address@hidden> writes:
>>> Dan Nicolaescu <address@hidden> writes:
>>>> Thierry Volpiatto <address@hidden> writes:
>>>>> Dan Nicolaescu <address@hidden> writes:
>>>>>>> Actually installing anything is easy and work out of the box with only:
>>>>>>> (require 'anything-config)
>>>>>>> (require 'anything-match-plugin) ; facultatif
>>>>>> For packages included in emacs we try to avoid using require to
>>>>>> activate the package.  [I don't know anything about this particular
>>>>>> package, so...]
>>>>> A lot of autoload cookies are missing in anything-config, however, 
>>>>> (autoload 'anything-find-files "anything-config.el" "" t)
>>>>> is enough to enable anything.
>>>> That's the same as using require.  The preferred way is to do it with
>>>> a function call, or a mode.
>>>>>>> Anything is now self documented both in mode-line and with C-h m or your
>>>>>>> usual help command, but yes a manual would be nice.
>>>>>> Can you please add some brief description of what it actually does?
>>>>>> ;;;; anything.el --- open anything / QuickSilver-like 
>>>>>> candidate-selection framework
>>>>>> does not tell much...
>>>>> anything is a framework that allow to setup an interactive and
>>>>> incremental display to select candidate and provide diverses actions on
>>>>> it or many of them.
>>>>> Basically, you can see that as a big completing-read, but incremental
>>>>> with nice display, and providing differents action on candidate selected
>>>>> in collection.
>>>> And how do you use it?
>>> On the user side, if you use anything-config.el, there is already build
>>> in sources ready for use, so you can use provided functions like any
>>> other emacs one (e.g M-x anything-xfonts).
>> This is still hard to grasp...
>> Can you provide concrete examples of typical problems and how
>> anything.el solves them?
> Say you want to see how look dejavu fonts in emacs:
> M-x anything-xfonts RET

Does this happen automatically when you do x-choose-font?

As a user do I need to know a lot of anything-* function names, or
this happens automatically when I use completion?

> enter in prompt: deja
> Move anything overlay with C-n/p or down/up
> Hit C-z
> Hit TAB to see provided actions
> Hit C-g to exit doing nothing
> Hit RET to exit doing the default action.
> Did you read example i provide under here?

No, I am looking at this from the point of view of a user, not a programmer.

You might want to step back, and think about how to present this to
someone that has not idea what anything.el is, and what it can do.
(I still don't know after a few emails...)

>>> For the developper who want to write his own anything source the best
>>> actually is to look at the sources wrote in anything-config.el.
>>> Basically, you run anything like that:
>>> (anything 'source)
>>> source is an alist that you can write like that:
>>> (Where name, candidates, action are anything attributes.
>>> You have a lot of attributes, for full info, use:
>>> M-x anything-describe-anything-attribute)
>>> (defvar mysource
>>>   '((name . "A simple example that open all file with extension .el")
>>>     (candidates . (lambda ()
>>>                    (loop for i in (directory-files default-directory)
>>>                       when (string= (file-name-extension i) "el")
>>>                       collect i)))
>>>     (action . (("Open file" . find-file)
>>>                ("Do something else" . (lambda (candidate)
>>>                                         ;; Write here something more
>>>                                         ;; useful than nil
>>>                                         nil))))))
>>> ;; [EVAL] (anything 'mysource)
>>> After evaluating line above to see if your new source work as expected,
>>> you can now define your new anything command:
>>> (defun my-new-anything-command ()
>>>   (interactive)
>>>   (anything 'mysource))
>>>> BTW, this might be obvious to you, but for people that have not used
>>>> the package is not.  Adding a few lines of describing what it does and
>>>> how to use it is very helpful.  [Please note that this has no relation
>>>> to getting this package included in emacs, this is just what a
>>>> potential user would like].
>>> -- 
>>> Thierry Volpiatto
>>> Gpg key: http://pgp.mit.edu/
> -- 
> Thierry Volpiatto
> Gpg key: http://pgp.mit.edu/

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