Re: smtp crap

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:11:45 +1100
> From: Tim Cross <address@hidden>
> Cc: address@hidden, address@hidden, address@hidden, 
>       address@hidden, address@hidden, address@hidden, 
>       address@hidden, address@hidden
> 
> Preventing emacs from submitting bugs via email when running under -Q
> does not prevent the user form submitting the bug report using another
> email client.

But it makes that harder, which is IMO unnecessary.

> There should be NO exceptions to -Q - it should represent an emacs
> environment where ALL user configuration values are at their default
> settings.

I agree, but this is correct only up to the point where Emacs
completed collecting the relevant data for the bug report.  After that
point, there's no problem in modifying the defaults, because they no
longer affect the bug report and the behavior reported therein.

> If the big blocker to getting this right is that we are in pretest and
> therefore cannot make significant change, then surely, given that the
> current proposed solutions are less than adequate, the sensible
> solution is to delay making ANY change to default behaviour until we
> have a good solution.

The default behavior until now WAS to send email from Emacs, using one
of the methods it supports.  So we are in agreement for this part.