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Re: More metaproblem
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: More metaproblem |
Date: |
Sat, 06 Dec 2014 01:12:11 +0200 |
> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 17:24:16 -0500
> From: "Eric S. Raymond" <address@hidden>
> Cc: Glenn Morris <address@hidden>, Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden>,
> address@hidden, address@hidden, address@hidden
>
> Karl Fogel <address@hidden>:
> > That's going to be a good investment of my time, after the initial
> > rejection of the idea?
>
> There's another version of this that's common here. It's "We will not
> consider anything new unless you commit to doing *all* the hard work
> yourself, up front, and also a whole bunch of related shitwork that we
> haven't been able to find anyone to take on."
Welcome to Free Software.
> It's basically a way to day "Fuck off" while sounding pseudo-responsible.
> It doesn't fool anyone, though. The underlying message of reflexive
> rejection of change is clear.
It just means it's not my itch to scratch. There's no rejection here,
quite the contrary: many times such suggestions are welcome. But
someone still has to do the work, and the best candidate is the one
who is the most motivated to do it.
> Heaven forfend anyone should offer to ... cooperate. Spread the load.
> When was the last time we heard anyone saying in reaction to a big new
> proposal "That's a great idea you just had. I'll do *this* piece."
You don't see that because you don't want to. Read this list more
carefully, and you will see plenty of examples of such cooperation.
> And yet, we wonder why there are 500+ regulars on #emacs who don't dare
> set foot in here. Well, why should they? It's a hostile work environment.
Nonsense. There's no hostility here.
- Re: More metaproblem, (continued)
- Re: More metaproblem, Stefan Monnier, 2014/12/05
- Re: More metaproblem, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/12/05
- Re: More metaproblem, Karl Fogel, 2014/12/05
- Re: More metaproblem, Glenn Morris, 2014/12/05
- Re: More metaproblem, Karl Fogel, 2014/12/05
- Re: More metaproblem, Eric S. Raymond, 2014/12/05
- Re: More metaproblem, Ted Zlatanov, 2014/12/05
- Re: More metaproblem, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/12/05
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- Re: More metaproblem, Eric S. Raymond, 2014/12/05
- Re: More metaproblem, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/12/06
- Re: More metaproblem, Eric S. Raymond, 2014/12/06
- Re: More metaproblem, David Kastrup, 2014/12/06
- Re: More metaproblem, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/12/06
- Re: More metaproblem, Werner LEMBERG, 2014/12/06
- Re: More metaproblem, Stephen Leake, 2014/12/06
- Re: More metaproblem, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/12/06
- Re: More metaproblem, Eric S. Raymond, 2014/12/06
- Re: More metaproblem, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/12/06