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Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language
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Oleh Krehel |
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Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language |
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Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:18:58 +0200 |
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Óscar Fuentes <address@hidden> writes:
> Oleh Krehel <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> I think slowly moving the Emacs C core to C++ is a good idea. The two
>> languages are supposed to be largely compile-compatible, i.e. g++ can
>> understand what was meant for gcc.
>
> Many times, while looking at the Emacs C sources, I thought "this would
> be much simpler to understand and modify with C++." Furthermore, I would
> volunteer to work on it.
>
> However, there are two factors against it:
>
> * If the rewrite happens, using a better language than C++ is
> desirable. C++ is better than C, but it sucks too. Developing our own
> subset of Elisp that can be compiled to native code and can
> inter-operate with C looks more attractive.
C++ doesn't suck. If C is good, than a subset of C++ that is C with
constants, templates and classes, but without polymorphism or operator
overloading is a better C - also good.
> * Current maintainers are not likely to welcome the idea, for several
> legitimate reasons ("don't know C++", "I dislike it", etc). And
> Stallman would forbide it alright ("C++ in my Emacs? No way!" :-)
I don't know if this was ever brought up.
> Making the pill easier to swallow by restricting ourselves to the
> simpler C++ features greatly diminishes its effectiveness too.
I disagree. The features would be the current C features, only with
better type checking and encapsulation.
Oleh
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- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, John Wiegley, 2015/10/13
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