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Re: [Orgmode] timer for a task

From: Carsten Dominik
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] timer for a task
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 06:27:15 +0200

On May 27, 2009, at 12:13 AM, Konstantin Antipin wrote:

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Carsten Dominik
<address@hidden> wrote:

On May 26, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Konstantin Antipin wrote:

Carsten, thank you for explanation.
Hopefully, I will get FSF papers soon.

In a meanwhile, here is another patch that introduces following changes:

  In case we set effort estimate on the currently clocked item,
  show message when time is up (notification is shown only once)
   * Linux only: If libnotify is used - the standard notification
     system in linux, then show notification with it.
     Note: Additional package libnotify-bin should be installed.
 Additionally, if variable org-clock-sound is set, interpret it as
path to sound file
 and play it (wav files only).
   * If aplay (tool from alsa - standard linux sound system) is
available play sound
     with it (all type of files).

So, if someone has interest in this features, please try it.
I also would like to discuss If we want this functionality (sound and
notification) in the core,
or it is better to put it to the extension... Or, just introduce
another variable that controls if we show notification or not...

I think we can put this into the core if:

- this will work without crashing on any system where Emacs runs on,
 i.e. if the re is no way to play a sound file, fall back to (ding)
 with a message or so...
Well, I made it such, that
* If you are using linux
* and if you have libnotify or aplay in your $PATH, then libnotify or
aplay will be used.
If not, use simple message and emacs-beep.
It should not break things...

* As proposed by Daniel, give user an option to see total time, spend
on the task instead of currently clocked time.
In fact, this functionality requires refactoring of org-clock-sum
function. Is it ok, if I do it?

Maybe you don't really need to refactor it:


will give you the total clocked time in minutes.

Coool! so elegantly simple!
I used it in the current patch.

This is now a single patch, containing all your changes?

DONE:  Show total clocked time in mode line.
          (Instead of time since last start)
In fact, now I simply changed the default behavior - now mode-line
shows total clocked time,
without giving user a preference. I thought it is more logical
behavior... Or should I introduce defcustom that controls it?

Probably I am sending too much patches around :)
Just a suggestion: why don't we use github for org-mode hosting? It
would be soooo simple to contribute
and to manage things! You would only benefit from this, Carsten.;)
Github is a really nice service. And free, of course.

What would be the advantages of using github instead of repo.or.cz?
I have found repo.or.cz less polished looking than githib, but very
fast and reliable, while github is getting boged down when America
wakes up :-)

- Carsten

Transition to it would be a breeze as well. I can help, if needed with this...


- Carsten


patch is made on the git version of orgmode.

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Carsten Dominik
<address@hidden> wrote:

On May 25, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Konstantin Antipin wrote:

Here is the patch to org-clock.el that does show estimated effort in
the mode-line if it is set.  Like so: 01:20/01:30 (clocked
time/estimated time)
 It does it by:
 * Setting new variable org-clock-effort in org-clock-in function.
 * If org-clock-effort is not nil, show estimated effort in the

I would like to go further and do the following:
* Make a beep/or highlight if we spend more time on a task that
initially intended
* As proposed by Daniel, give user an option to see total time, spend
on the task instead of currently clocked time.

Does somebody else need this? Will this changes be accepted to the
I just saw that in order to contribute, you need to sign some papers..
Is this the only way?
I am new to open-source, so I am not really familiar with such things.

Hi Konstantin,

this is interesting functionality which I would like to have in the core.

I can accept short patches of only a few lines without the paperwork, but your patch is already at the limit, and adding the other ideas you have
will push it over that limit.  We have the following possibilities:

1. You sign the papers.  This is very simple to do, unless you have
an employer who owns everything you do and who might make problems.
 This would be my preferred solution.

2. I can put stuff without FSF copyright assignment into the
 contrib directory - you could make a little package that hooks
 into Org, I would created any hooks needed.

3. I treat your contribution as an "idea/feature request" and implement
 it myself.  As I have many other things to do, this is my least

If you decide to sign the papers, please get the form from the homepage orgmode.org (near te end) and send it to the FSF, with a CC to me. This
will take you no more than 2 minutes.  We can then proceed with
your stuff into the Org core, but I will be able to integrate this change into Emacs only after I receive confirmation about the signed paper,
will happen within a fee weeks or so.

- Carsten


On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Eraldo Helal <address@hidden> wrote:

Sounds good to me.


On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:30, Konstantin Antipin
<address@hidden> wrote:

Hi Daniel,
Yes, you are right indeed. I am talking about effort estimates - I'v
missed this chapter for some reason from the manual.
I like the idea you proposed - to show how much time is left in the mode line. And I think I am going to write necessary code for this.

Or, may be someone has even better idea?


On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Daniel Clemente <address@hidden >

I suppose you talk about estimated efforts. I also have noticed that
work better if I have defined them, but it is very easy to miss them
work on a task more time than planned.
An easy improvement would be to show at the mode line not only how much time you have worked on the current task but also the remaining
according to your effort estimate. And if it comes to 0, highlight it

Other useful things to show would be the *total* elapsed time (not only the elapsed time of the last C-c C-x C-i) or directly the effort
estimate (instead of the remaining time, the total time).

 And as you say, an alarm would be useful.

-- Daniel

El dl, mai 25 2009, Konstantin Antipin va escriure:

Hi everybody!
I am constantly trying to be more productive, and there is one thing
that I noticed:
If you give yourself a specific time for a task, then you tend to finish this task in this time. It helps to stay focused and do stuff
that is most important.

So, the question is - Is there any way to set a timer on a taks, and
get a bell when it is expired?
Some time before I even wrote a small extension that helps me to do
that http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/tea-time
But now I am thinking - is there an orgmode-way to do that? It would
be great to integrate it with great time tracking system, for
If nobody uses proposed feature, please give me a hint how it would
best to do that.

my best,

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