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Re: [Orgmode] Problems with Org Mode which doesn't properly manage line


From: Pierfranco Minsenti
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Problems with Org Mode which doesn't properly manage linebreaks in LaTeX export
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 21:05:50 +0100

Commenting out the lines about longlines mode in the .emacs file has solved the problem. Apparently the export to LaTeX seems to be the only drawback of using longlines mode authomatically charged for every file. Or, anyway, this is the only problem I've met so far.
Thanks.
pierfranco

2010/1/3 Carsten Dominik <address@hidden>

On Jan 3, 2010, at 8:10 PM, Pierfranco Minsenti wrote:

You are right Carsten: in my .emacs file I have put, since long, the following lines of command about longlines (following a recommendation found on the Internet and so far I have been perfectly happy with this):

;;LONGLINES:
(autoload 'longlines-mode
   "longlines.el"
    "Minor mode for automatically wrapping long lines." t)


Now, just 2 questions:

1) should I disable the setting about longlines mode in my .emacs file in order to solve the problem with the export from .org to latex? Would it be enough?

Why don't you try?  I think it should solve the problem.



AND about your recommendation to switch to Emacs 23

2) I use an old version  of CarbonEmacs for MAC OS X 10.3 Panther 2007 and for using the new 2009 version of CarbonEmacs (which requires Leopard) I should say farewell to my G4 Ibook and buy another computer. So: is there another way to switch to Emacs 23?

I guess you could compile Emacs 23 yourself.

- Carsten



Thank you for your kind help.

best wishes

pierfranco

2010/1/3 Carsten Dominik <address@hidden>
Hi Pierfranco,

are you using longlines.el or something similar with hard and soft new lines?
Bad Idea.  Your best option is to switch to Emacs 23 and use is built-in facilities (visual-line-mode and word-wrap) to display long lines.

- Carsten


On Jan 3, 2010, at 7:30 PM, Pierfranco Minsenti wrote:

Hi Carsten,

thank you yor your early reply.
Here is an example as you requested: some lines from my original .org file (the lines between the ==== rows):

=========================================================
* ML built-in transaction monitoring facility


** Features

MetaLib has a built-in transaction monitoring facility (a transaction logging component).
This component enables system administrators to retrieve the stored transaction log data and analyze them at their convenience.


The data elements stored by the transaction logging component are the following:
 - date/time stamp of transactions
 - resource name (i.e. resources as targets for the metasearch engine: databases, catalogues, directories, search engines, full-text electronic collections etc.) available in the systems (the so called local KnowledgeBase)
 - resource type (i.e. subject gateway; library catalogues, etc.) and discipline
 - resource access method code: (i.e. the type of connector required to comunicate with the external resource: e.g. Z39.50; HTML protocol; XML protocol)
 - users demographic data: Affiliation: Undergraduate; Graduate; Staff; Guest) and Academic status: Undergraduate; Graduate; Post Graduate; Faculty Member; Other)
 - users type related to: authenticated use of the system and use of personalization features: Registered Users; Users with Personal Lists; Users with Saved Items
 - number of searches per resource
 - number of search sessions per day, user groups
 - patron's entry (i.e. the search query)
 - the number of hits
 - search type code (i.e. the type of fields used)
 - search status code (DONE; ERROR; SUSPEND; FIND; FETCH; CANCEL)
 - system modules used (Quick Search; Find Database; MetaSearch; History; Alerts)


** Limitations

The pre-defined reports available suffers severals limitations, some peculiar drawbaks of the web logging system made available. These consist in the fact that relevant data are filtered out:
 - IP of users (which would make it possible to identify their provenance from the local network of from the outside internet)
 - data about full-text resources found and actual file the downloaded are not available.
Infact the Links to Native Interface section warns that: "This statistical report counts the number of times users link to the native interface of a resource. This report includes links to the native interface of any resource presented in the user interface, including Link Only resources (i.e., not searchable in MetaLib); links to the native interface to view the search results of a Search and Link resource; as well as links to the native interface to view full-text documents, etc. that may be included as external links in the full records of search results. The display includes the database name and number of times linked."

Besides, the convention used for counting queries:
 - the system counts queries per target resources, so that single queries submitted in the user interface are multiplied by the number of target resouces they have actually been sent.

=================================================================

Here are the same lines as they appear in the exported LaTeX file (the lines between the <<<< rows):

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% Created 2010-01-03 Sun 19:20 \documentclass[11pt]{article} \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}    %[utf8]{inputenc} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage{graphicx} \usepackage{longtable} \usepackage{hyperref}   \title{ML-TLA} \author{Pierfranco Minsenti} \date{03 January 2010}  \begin{document}  \maketitle  \setcounter{tocdepth}{3} \tableofcontents \vspace*{1cm}

\section{ML built-in transaction monitoring facility} \label{sec-1}


\subsection{Features} \label{sec-1.1}

MetaLib has a built-in transaction monitoring facility (a transaction logging
component).
This component enables system administrators to retrieve the stored
transaction log data and analyze them at their convenience.



The data elements stored by the transaction logging component are the
following:
\begin{itemize} \item date/time stamp of transactions \item resource name (i.e. resources as targets for the metasearch engine: \end{itemize} databases, catalogues, directories, search engines, full-text electronic
collections etc.) available in the systems (the so called local KnowledgeBase)
\begin{itemize} \item resource type (i.e. subject gateway; library catalogues, etc.) and \end{itemize} discipline
\begin{itemize} \item resource access method code: (i.e. the type of connector required to \end{itemize} comunicate with the external resource: e.g. Z39.50; HTML protocol; XML
protocol)
\begin{itemize} \item users demographic data: Affiliation: Undergraduate; Graduate; Staff; Guest) \end{itemize} and Academic status: Undergraduate; Graduate; Post Graduate; Faculty Member;
Other)
\begin{itemize} \item users type related to: authenticated use of the system and use of \end{itemize} personalization features: Registered Users; Users with Personal Lists; Users
with Saved Items
\begin{itemize} \item number of searches per resource \item number of search sessions per day, user groups \item patron's entry (i.e. the search query) \item the number of hits \item search type code (i.e. the type of fields used) \item search status code (DONE; ERROR; SUSPEND; FIND; FETCH; CANCEL) \item system modules used (Quick Search; Find Database; MetaSearch; History; \end{itemize} Alerts)



\subsection{Limitations} \label{sec-1.2}

The pre-defined reports available suffers severals limitations, some peculiar
drawbaks of the web logging system made available. These consist in the fact
that relevant data are filtered out:
\begin{itemize} \item IP of users (which would make it possible to identify their provenance from \end{itemize} the local network of from the outside internet)
\begin{itemize} \item data about full-text resources found and actual file the downloaded are not \end{itemize} available.
Infact the Links to Native Interface section warns that: ``This statistical
report counts the number of times users link to the native interface of a
resource. This report includes links to the native interface of any resource
presented in the user interface, including Link Only resources (i.e., not
searchable in MetaLib); links to the native interface to view the search
results of a Search and Link resource; as well as links to the native
interface to view full-text documents, etc. that may be included as external
links in the full records of search results. The display includes the database
name and number of times linked.''

Besides, the convention used for counting queries:
\begin{itemize} \item the system counts queries per target resources, so that single queries \end{itemize} submitted in the user interface are multiplied by the number of target
reosurces they have actually been sent


 \end{document}

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Pierfranco




2010/1/3 Carsten Dominik <address@hidden>

Hi Pierfranco,

please augment your report with example input (.org file) and
output (.tex file).

Thanks.

- Carsten


On Jan 3, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Pierfranco Minsenti wrote:

Hi all,

this is my 1st message to the list and I am writing to ask for help.
I have a problem with the LaTeX export features of Org Mode, version 6.27a. installed on a GNU Emacs Emacs 22.1.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin7.9.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0).

The problem is the folllowing: in the header lines of the LaTeX file exported from an original Org file, the different commands which are automatically addedd by the system and which should begin each of them on a new paragraph, appear all in a single multiline paragraph. The problem is that this paragraph is commented, because it begins with the % Created 2010-01-03 etc. also added by the system.
Perhaps this is also why the the PDF export doen't work.

Another problem, caused by a line break not properly managed, is related to bulleted lists when they are exported to a LaTeX file: when items are longer that a single line, the lines after the first are broken down (that is: the second line etc. begin a new, not-bulleted paragraph, and they are not the second line of the item).

I have set the variable Org Export Preserve Breaks to on (non-nil) but nothing has changed.

I have also checked the specific LaTeX export variables of Org but all seems properly setted.
By the way, when I make a very similar export from another Emacs mode, that is Muse Mode, to LaTeX, I don't have these problems and everything works just fine.

Has anybody experienced this problem with Org Mode and could help me?

Thank you very much in advance.

pierfranco

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