Re: [Orgmode] Re: org-info.js

[Carsten Dominik]

On May 19, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Dan Davison wrote:

> Nick Dokos <address@hidden> writes:
>
> > Dan Davison <address@hidden> wrote:
> >
> > > If I'm viewing the manual with Sebastian's org-info javascript info
> > > emulation, and I'm on node 13 of the manual, what key do I press  
> > > to get
> > > to 13.1?
> > >
> > > I wish I were better with info. My understanding is that I would use
> > > space or ] in emacs.
> >
> > In emacs info, <SPACE> advances down the imaginary scroll, so it  
> > may or
> > may not get you to the next (sub)section, depending on the length  
> > of the
> > current section and the size of your screen. ']' will go to the next
> > node in a depth-first traversal, 'n' will get you to the next node  
> > in a
> > level-traversal (always assuming that the relevant nodes exist).
> > Numeric arguments will get you to the relevant subsection (i.e. if  
> > you
> > are in sec. 13 and press 6, you'll end up in subsection 13.6 -  
> > assuming
> > that it exists), whereas 'n' and 'p' will get you to the next/ 
> > previous
> > heading at the same level and 'u' will go up a level.
> >
> > Now I'm on much shakier ground (iow, I don't necessarily know what  
> > I'm
> > talking about), but I think `n' does a depth-first traversal, so it  
> > will
> > go from 13 to 13.1 - the question is how to go from 13 to 14 without
> > visiting all the 13.x... in-between:
>
> Actually, no, n goes from 13 to 14 (at least in google-chrome). But  
> I'm
> with you -- it seems to behave differently in
>
> http://orgmode.org/worg/code/org-info-js
>
> There n does the depth-first traversal you describe (and that is the
> behaviour I'm looking for).
>
> So
> - how to get the full traversal in the org manual?

> - why is there different behaviour between the manual and the worg  
> page?


Because the manual is created by texinfo, Worg is published by Org-mode.
I also would love to have a depth-first way to travel in the manual -  
but I don't know how.

I *am* hacking the html manual pages already (UTILITIES/mansplit.pl)  
to get the sidebar toc in there - the same program could maybe also  
hack some of those keys, I guess.  But I don't know how.  And there  
are issues of what people expect.  I love it that Sebastian has made a  
way to travel depth-first, but I also think that people who are used  
to read texinfo manpages like to have consistent keys....

- Carsten

> Dan
>
>
> > I thought I would go UP to the TOC
> > and then TAB to or click on the next section, but the UP link does  
> > not
> > seem to do what I think it should do (go up one level in the  
> > hierarchy -
> > at least that seems to be the case in the org-info pages:
> > http://orgmode.org/worg/code/org-info-js). I'm not saying there is no
> > way: I just didn't find one after a few minutes of fooling around.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Nick
> >
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- Carsten