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[Orgmode] ELPA [WAS] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instruct
[Orgmode] ELPA [WAS] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions
Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:57:00 +0100
Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux)
Achim Gratz <address@hidden> writes:
> Dan Davison <address@hidden> writes:
>> OK, so we're agreed. But your points below don't seem to describe a less
>> technical route. Could you describe the less technical version of the
>> instructions for the method that you are advocating?
> Installing is something technical and I'm a tech-head, so you're asking
> something of me I'm not really qualified to do. :-)
> My points were:
> - I think that a proper installation via make is the way to go, but I
> recognize that some folks don't want or need to do that.
> - There is a default place where Emacs expects this kind of stuff and
> has some magic implemented to make it work without further
> configuration, and that place is site-lisp. You can put it someplace
> else, but then you have to alter the load-path or you are at the mercy
> of some special configuration to make the same magic work in other
> places, too (I've had ~/lisp set up that way when I was still
> compiling Emacs myself).
> - If org was delivered and compiled in 'org/' rather than 'lisp/', one
> could instruct users to just take that folder and copy/drag it into
> the site-lisp directory of their Emacs installation. You can do that
> with the lisp folder, but I'd at least tell people to please rename it
> to org after doing the copy.
> If you want to get any less technical than that, I'd suggest ELPA or
> something like it (as has been discussed already in another thread).
> ELPA packages build and configure themselves as far as possible, so that
> should take out the guesswork for novice users. Also it looks like it
> will come standard with Emacs24 (with a GNU archive and the possibility
> to add additional archives, which could take care of the "bleeding
> edge"), so there will be absolutely no "installation" work required from
> the user from then on.
Thanks, that was very helpful.
Using ELPA does seem like an attractive route, especially if it
(package.el) is going to be in Emacs24.
- How much work would it take to put and maintain Org-mode on ELPA?
- Would it make sense to have two different packages available via ELPA,
i.e. Latest Release and Latest?
- Will it be possible for the Org project to have control over the files
that ELPA points at (in which case we might be able to keep the latest
updated a few times a day or something), or do we have to submit them
to a server that's out of our control?
- Will ELPA be able to get the info files installed suitably?
Re: [Orgmode] [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions, John Hendy, 2010/09/26
[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions, Achim Gratz, 2010/09/26
Re: [Orgmode] [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions, Carsten Dominik, 2010/09/27
- [Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions, Dan Davison, 2010/09/26
- [Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions, Achim Gratz, 2010/09/26
- [Orgmode] ELPA [WAS] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions,
Dan Davison <=
- Re: [Orgmode] ELPA [WAS] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions, Scot Becker, 2010/09/28
- [Orgmode] Re: ELPA [WAS] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions, Jambunathan K, 2010/09/28
- Re: [Orgmode] ELPA, Eric Schulte, 2010/09/28
- Re: [Orgmode] ELPA, Sebastian Rose, 2010/09/28
- [Orgmode] Re: ELPA, Achim Gratz, 2010/09/28
- [Orgmode] Re: ELPA, Richard Riley, 2010/09/28
- Re: [Orgmode] ELPA, Scot Becker, 2010/09/28