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Re: [O] Re: unnumbered subsections in latex export


From: Eric S Fraga
Subject: Re: [O] Re: unnumbered subsections in latex export
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 20:27:33 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux)

Aankhen <address@hidden> writes:

[...]

> Thank you for the clarifications.  I’m going to talk a bit more about
> HTML as that’s where I have the most experience.  I am in agreement
> with you when you say that builtin support for acronyms would be
> useful (although I feel it would be good to generalize it to
> abbreviations, if that can also be supported in other backends).  When
> you have the following markup:
>
> ,----
> | <acronym title="Hypertext Markup Language">HTML</acronym> is a
> | language for marking up documents.  The most current version
> | of <acronym title="Hypertext Markup Language">HTML</acronym> is 4.01.
> | The successor to <acronym title="Hypertext Markup
> | Language">HTML</acronym>, HTML5, is currently under development.
> `----
>
> The expansion is invisible by default; it shows up in a tooltip when
> you hover over the text.  You can try a live example to see for
> yourself.[1] In this way, the expansion is always there when you need
> it (and you can distinguish between multiple terms sharing the same
> acronym, should the need ever arise), but it takes up no space if you
> don’t.

There are those of us that, for one reason or another, do *not* use a
mouse or any other graphical pointer.  Tooltips do not appear ever in
those cases.  I would like a solution that does not rely on any
particular graphical interface paradigm, basically!

Of course, I know that I am in the minority here... but accessibility is
always an important factor and one that should not be ignored, IMO.

> I would suggest that, were Org to gain support for acronyms and/or
> abbreviations, they be exported in HTML using ‘abbr’ (‘acronym’ is
> deprecated thanks to HTML5) with the ‘title’ defined for each
> occurrence, and with CSS to ensure consistent rendering, along these
> lines:
>
> ,----
> | abbr { font-variant: small-caps; border-bottom: 1px dashed; cursor: help; }
> `----

Does this still rely on tooltips?

> I can see the argument for having a list at the end and linking each
> definition instead.  I feel that’s less convenient, however, as (a) it
> means temporarily losing your place in the document and (b) bunched-up
> anchors at the end of a document are a pain.  Of course,
> alternatively, each acronym/abbreviation could be marked up only at
> the first occurrence; that seems like it would be easy to implement as
> a configuration option.

I would like a combination of both, whenever possible: fully expanded
def'n in the text at the first occurrence and links to the list of
abbreviations/acronyms at the end for subsequent occurrences (modulo the
problems with double-links etc, for which I cannot propose a solution
unfortunately).

Thanks,
eric

-- 
: Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.50.1
: using Org-mode version 7.5 (release_7.5.134.gb869b)



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