Re: [O] Display missing/overlapping clock ranges

[Rainer Stengele]

Am 13.04.2011 23:06, schrieb Bernt Hansen:
> Paul Mead <address@hidden> writes:
> 
>> Rainer Stengele <address@hidden> writes:
>>
>>> I do clock every task I work on during the whole day.
>>> At the end of the day or week I have to go over all clock entries in my 
>>> agenda
>>> and see if there are holes or overlappings in my clock tables.
>>> If yes I have to adjust the clocks.
>>>
>>> I read Bernt Hansen's comments on how he works with clocks
>>> (http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html#Clocking).
>>>
>>> What about a function showing the lacking clock ranges over
>>> the day while being in the agenda with log mode on?
>>>
>>> The function could even check for overlapping clock ranges and indicate 
>>> these
>>> or jump to these.
>>>
>>> Maybe it would even be good to be able to configure daily and weekly
>>> regular holes in the ranges, for example
>>>
>>> - daily lunch time from [12:00]--[13:00]
>>> - week end days (maybe with diary syntax)
>>> - working days (Monday to Friday for example)
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> -- Rainer
>>
>> I'd defintely use something which identified the gaps and overlaps as
>> they're taking some time to find now that I have to account more closely
>> for my time! I've been considering whether to raise this for a
>> while. The 'regular holes' idea is good to, although not as important
>> for me.
>>
>> Paul
> 
> Hi Rainer and Paul,
> 
> Locating gaps would be useful.  I've been meaning to investigate this
> but haven't spent any time on it yet.  With my current clocking setup
> I've found I get very few holes.  Checking the times is a task I do
> manually just before billing for my time.  I currently just use a visual
> scan of the daily agenda(s) including clocking lines displayed ensuring
> that the start and end times match over the clocking period.
> 
> It should be possible to automate the check.  How should a filtered
> agenda be handled?  I expect you'd want to see the gaps for the entries
> that are filtered away otherwise it's only really meaningful when you
> look at the entire clocking data.
> 
> The major problem I used to have was clocks that would be opened and
> never closed.  These were bad because they count as 0 minutes and
> without fixing those entries I don't bill for that time.  Since the
> invention of M-x org-resolve-clocks (which runs everytime I clock in) I
> now find these open clocks quickly and don't need to reconstruct the
> data a week later.  I haven't had this problem in a long time.
> 
> Maybe something like the following mock up?
> 
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> Day-agenda (W15):
> Wednesday  13 April 2011
>   todo:        7:09- 7:11 Clocked:   (0:02) Organization                      
>              :PERSONAL::
>                7:11- 8:00 - Gap ->   (0:49)
>   org:         8:00- 8:12 Clocked:   (0:12) DONE Try to fix this bug          
>       :ORG:WORK:tuning::
>   todo:        8:12- 8:26 Clocked:   (0:14) Organization                      
>              :PERSONAL::
>   diary:       8:26- 9:06 Clocked:   (0:40) Breakfast
>   todo:        9:06- 9:30 Clocked:   (0:24) Task A                            
>              :PERSONAL::
>                9:30-10:58 - Gap ->   (1:28)
>               10:00...... ----------------
>   todo:       10:58-11:11 Clocked:   (0:13) Organization                      
>              :PERSONAL::
>               vvv ------ Overlap ------ vvv
>   todo:       11:11-11:12 Clocked:   (0:01) Read Mail and News                
>              :PERSONAL::
>   todo:       11:10-11:14 Clocked:   (0:01) Organization                      
>              :PERSONAL::
>               ^^^ ------ Overlap ------ ^^^
>   todo:       11:14-11:15 Clocked:   (0:01) Read Mail and News                
>              :PERSONAL::
>   todo:       11:15-11:16 Clocked:   (0:01) Organization                      
>              :PERSONAL::
>               12:00...... ----------------
>               14:00...... ----------------
>               16:00...... ----------------
>               11:16-16:33 - Gap ->   (5:17)
>   todo:       16:33...... Clocked:   (-) Read Mail and News                   
>              :PERSONAL::
>               16:43...... now - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
> -
>               18:00...... ----------------
>               20:00...... ----------------
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> 
> Regards,
> Bernt
> 
> 

Bernt,

that looks very useful!

Regards,
Rainer