Re: [O] org-mode based groupware wiki

[Waldemar Quevedo]

Hello Torsten,

> - Enhance org-ruby?

I would be glad to help out in this regard. About the completeness of the implementation of the Org mode ruby parser, it would be very helpful for me to have a set of examples that describe how each one of the features of Org mode Emacs exporter should be rendered in to HTML.

I tried to do some work about this some time ago to identify the coverage of Org ruby HTML exporting compared to the Org mode Emacs exporter:

https://github.com/wallyqs/org-mode-features/blob/master/features.org

https://github.com/bdewey/org-ruby/tree/master/spec/html_examples/

Is there a set of examples of all the features from Org mode anywhere?

By the way, recently Github has upgraded to the 0.8.1 version of the org-ruby gem, so Org mode rendering to HTML should have improved a lot (previous version they used was 0.5.3 so it took a while for them to evaluate upgrading the gem).

https://github.com/github/markup/issues/186#issuecomment-25342870

Until I have identified the coverage, my current approach with developing Org ruby is 'on demand', so if you find and issue please submit to the issues tracker on Github: https://github.com/bdewey/org-ruby/issues

Cheers,

- Wally

On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Torsten Wagner <address@hidden> wrote:

Hi,

recently I discovered gollumn [1] and was amazed to see that there is a software which allows non-orgers to work with / read my org-files and which even use git as the backend to get all save and nice together, even if working concurrently on the same files.

I was wondering, because I never read about gollum in this ML and my search only revealed a very short three year old thread between Bastien and Eric Schulte. Despite that many of us was asking of possible ways how to use org as a groupware like environment. I guess this topic was discussed even more frequently over the last three years.

Unfortunately, the main drawback, the usage of org-ruby [2] as org-mode parser still remains. I frighten that org-ruby only works on a small subset of the org-mode syntax and that even this might be a bit out-of-date. As far as I understood, org-mode in the meantime switched to a new exporter [3] and we got org-elements [4] and a heavy work towards standardization thanks to Nicolas Goaziou.

What would be the best way to get the best out of the gollum idea and the new org-mode capabilities?

- Skip gollumn and use (an updated) blorgit [5] (Does it have editor functionality?) ?

- Enhance org-ruby?

- Write a small script which creates a native html export from org-mode and hook this into gollumn? However, that would require emacs and org-mode being installed on the server side.

For me gollums most important feature would be that people could use their web-browser and edit org-files. It might not be the most comfortable way of editing a org-file but a simple adding of a row into a table or rephrasing or adding a paragraph would be totally possible. It even might help to introduce people into using emacs and org-mode.

It would be really nice to have such an easy access to org-files. Even hard-core orgers might like the idea to e.g. access and lightly modify there org-files on-the-go via smartphones and tablets without running a full emacs session. (I am aware of Mobileorg ;) )

I got a bit into detail here to hopefully kick-off some discussions.

All the best

Torsten

[1] https://github.com/gollum/gollum
[2] http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-ruby.html
[3] http://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-export-reference.html
[4] http://orgmode.org/worg/org-api/org-element-api.html
[5] http://orgmode.org/worg/blorgit.html