Re: [ft-devel] Japenese OTF font with funny encoding

[mpsuzuki]

Hi,

Werner had already given the answer, but it's a pity
for japanese macintosh user to say nothing.

I don't have exactly same font with Deron, but I've
bought several TrueType and ATM font packages from
Dynalab. I want to add 2 supplementary comments.

1) Some Dynalab font has problematic cmap for Shift-JIS.
If you have Osaka font on Mac OS X, ftdump will list 3 cmaps:
Unicode, Roman, and Shift-JIS. There's no problem.
But, some Japanese fonts from Dynalab, ftdump won't
list Shift-JIS cmap, in some cases. This is because
Dynalab's TTF often includes problematic cmap for Shift-JIS.
FreeType2 ignores it.

2) Shift-JIS variants on MacOS
At least, there were 2 kinds of Shift-JIS variants on
Japanese Macintosh. One was designed for KanjiTalk 6 (MacOS 6)
and another was designed for KanjiTalk 7 (MacOS 7).
I think there's no official method to distinguish them.
I guess if PostScript name of the font finishes with
83pv-RKSJ-H, it's supposed to be Shift-JIS for KT6,
and if it finishes with 90pv-RKSJ-H, it's supposed
to be Shift-JIS for KT7. However, there are Japanese
fonts without such extensions (e.g. Apple's Osaka).

Regards,
mpsuzuki

On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 11:00:07 +0100 (CET)
Werner LEMBERG <address@hidden> wrote:

>
>> For ftface->charmaps[1]
>> encoding=0(!!) platform=1 encoding_id=1 (iterating using
>> FT_Get_First/Next_Char yeilds 8589 chars).
>
>Hmm, PID/EID 1,1 is Japanese on a Mac, so FreeType is correct in
>saying that encoding = FT_ENCODING_NONE because it doesn't contain
>mapping tables.
>
>> This font works with OS X applications, so I wonder how do I
>> determine what the encoding is for "0" in this case?
>
>Value `0' means that FreeType can't handle it, not that it is an
>unknown encoding!  You have to use other means handle the encoding,
>for example, looking at the PID/EID pair directly.
>
>> The charcodes that FT_Get_First/Next_Char yields ranges from 0-128,
>> 33088->40956 and 57408->60924.
>>
>> Looking at the characters, it _looks_ like they are Shift-JIS
>> encoded.
>
>Yes.  I'm quite sure that Japanese for older Macs is always encoded in
>SJIS.  However, you should look up the Mac documentation to verify
>this.
>
>> How would I determine that programatically using FreeType?
>
>You can't.
>
>> Second, can I supply a synthetic charmap somehow to synthesis a
>> Unicode table, or do I need to convert my Unicode to Shift-JIS and
>> just use the existing charmap?
>
>The latter.
>
>
>    Werner
>
>
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