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Re: [Gcl-devel] gcl versions
Re: [Gcl-devel] gcl versions
Sat, 13 Sep 2003 11:39:45 -0500
Thanks, Camm. Replies are interspersed below.
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From: Camm Maguire <address@hidden>
Date: 12 Sep 2003 17:33:55 -0400
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Matt Kaufmann <address@hidden> writes:
> Hi, Camm --
> I just heard from an ACL2 user who was unaware that GCL's known problems
> Sun/Solaris have been fixed. (At least, I have the impression that GCL now
> runs on Solaris from this week's email with the UT El Paso guys.)
I still don't know what the original difficulty was, but I will write
them to find out. Of course I'd like the build to be as transparent
as possible. Am a bit behind on my email, as I've been pushing
through a few changes.
And I appreciate all that work! Thanks!!
> I think it would be useful to have a page making it clear how to get the
> version of GCL, and what known killer bugs it might have (like the
> fixnum GC problem, but not smaller things). For starters I'd be happy to
> create such a page, linked to by way of the ACL2 home page, if I knew what
> put into it. I'm imagining something like the following, but I don't know
> what I say is accurate or appropriate; it's still confusing to me which of
> three approaches a new user (or I, for that matter) should take. Any
This of course would be a good idea, and the project homepage is a
likely venue. How far back in terms of gcl versions should we
I don't have an opinion. I'm really just looking for a simple answer to the
question of where a new GCL user should go for a GCL download.
The recursive Windows issue was really old. (BTW, has the
user who reported this tried a new build with success?)
I don't recall the issue -- if you have the email I don't mind checking with
I'm unaware of any killer bugs at present. The last one I knew of was
the GC bug you brought to my attention. Are there others?
I'm not aware of any either. Is there a gcl users mailing list? If so, that
would be good information for new users as well.
When ftp.gnu.org gets back up, we plan to have official source tarball
releases under gnu/gcl, stable binary builds of these under
gnu/gcl/stable-binary, and latest cvs snapshot binary builds under
gnu/gcl/cvs. Unfortunately, ftp.gnu.org is apparently down for some
considerable time. I've written to the admins several times with no
In the meantime, we have stable (2.6.1) and unstable (2.7.0) cvs
branches, and binary and source tarballs via debian.org. Adding -r
Version_2_6_1 pulls the former; the latter is pulled by default.
Stable .deb packages are called gcl_...., and unstable (soon to be
released) as gclcvs.....
But which do you recommend for brand new users, who might know nothing about
gcl or even Lisp and might know very little about CVS? I'm looking for very
explicit instructions, of the sort I proposed in my previous email.
Anyway, suggestions on easing distribution and information transfer
are always appreciated. I can stick the above paragraph on the
homepage if desired. But more than likely this setup requires some
user-friendliness feedback :-).
If you think ftp://ftp.gnu.org may be back up soon, might it make sense to wait
a few days and then put up some version of the explicit instructions I
proposed? Can you suggest any specific revisions? I'm still kind of confused
about the relation between the various methods of fetching GCL and which is
> Here are instructions for obtaining GCL (try these in the order shown):
> o Latest release and packages:
> o The very latest GCL, assuming you have CVS installed on your system (see
> http://savannah.gnu.org/cvs/?group=gcl if you want more information on
> cvs -d:pserver:address@hidden:/cvsroot/gcl login
> cvs -d:pserver:address@hidden:/cvsroot/gcl checkout gcl
> o Recent CVS versions:
> By the way, several links under the menu at
> http://www.gnu.org/software/gcl/gcl.html are broken, perhaps because
> ftp://ftp.gnu.org is down; any idea when that will be fixed?
> Thanks much --
> -- Matt
> Gcl-devel mailing list
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