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Re: [gNewSense-users] [Off Topic] Will you be getting Microsoft Vista?

From: Ringo Kamens
Subject: Re: [gNewSense-users] [Off Topic] Will you be getting Microsoft Vista?
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:49:50 -0700

I added some comments. I'm glad vista is meeting so much resistance.

On 1/30/07, Yavor Doganov <address@hidden> wrote:
Dave Crossland wrote:
> The majority of the world prefers hosted webapp MUAs to any other
> kind.

There are free web MUAs, such as Squirellmail, HastyMail, Horde's
client (was of some generic name) and probably others.  I've never
used any, but people say some of them are quite usable.

> Google's email webapp has the best usability, features, storage
> and speed.

And is non-free, which completely discards the rest of your statement.

> Webapps are the most serious threat to free software, [...]

Right, what is happening with Google in the past years is what was
happening with Microsoft in the early 90's.  The only difference is
that many people, unfortunately even from our community, don't
recognize the enemy (probably because their vision is blurred by
Google's "community-friendly" campaigns).  Using Google's "services"
only gives them more power.  Using any other non-free program (or
webapp, which is a program) is practically the same -- sacrificing
your freedom and accepting your master for the sake of convenience.

However, the freedom issues should not be confused with the privacy
issues.  Those are separate isssues.  The site admin who operates your
mail can always do whatever he likes with your information (in most

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