Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: {arch} directory

[Dustin Sallings]

On Friday, Sep 26, 2003, at 17:51 US/Pacific, Miles Bader wrote:

> Yeah, but some of us feel that we shouldn't be forced to add weird 
> little
> kludges to our trees, and have to undergo the pain of transition, just
> because the current name happens to interact badly with your personal 
> habits
> (e.g., using constructs like `grep -r ... *' -- this is _not_ the way
> everybody works [or in my experience, even many people]).

	I don't do grep -r *.  I do something similar with ctags and find and 
stuff like that, and I really don't believe I'm going to be the last 
person to bring this up.

> That you're pushing _so_ hard on this rather minor point, with 
> apparently
> little experience actually using arch, makes it even more grating.

	I'm sorry you feel that way, but I personally think that my lack of 
experience is a benefit here.  I feel that a have a reasonable 
understanding of how arch works without having built up a tolerance to 
all of the minor points, and I feel that I should be able to question 
any decision that I think could've been done differently with good 
cause.

	So far, I haven't heard any reason for this to be the way that it is 
other than it's the way that it was and it's got a side-effect that 
people who are used to it like, but people who are not used to it 
don't.  I think the latter will always be true if it stays the way it 
is, but just as some people got used to it being there, people can also 
get used to it being gone.

> No matter which name you use, it _will not make everybody happy_.  
> There are
> minor advantages to both choices, but they are _minor_; it's more or 
> less
> arbitrary, really, and the current name is already embedded in many 
> places,
> making any transition a burden on existing users.  Given that, why 
> should the
> name be changed to make _you_ happy?

	I didn't say it should be changed to make *me* happy, I said it should 
be reevaluated to see if it's the best choice.  Regardless of extreme 
views of what I'm suggesting being me naively trying to make everyone 
happy, what I'm saying is that I don't think this is the best choice.  
I believe I've given a good amount of evidence for this, and I don't 
believe I've seen anything that would suggest that {arch} is a better 
choice.

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Dustin Sallings