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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: community spirit

From: Thomas Lord
Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: community spirit
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 11:35:06 -0800 (PST)

    > From: Dustin Sallings <address@hidden>

    >   I agree with most of what you said, and I agree that it just feels 
    > wrong to have to install a wrapper to use a tool because the base tool 
    > doesn't cover some common cases, but the problem is not so much the 
    > list of dependencies.  The dependencies I had for installing tla in the 
    > first place were much larger than any wrapper I've used to date.

In some sense, I think that part of what we're running up against in
the UI area is simply that arch makes some really quite complicated
maneuvers achievable and desirable, but our current UI technologies
have precious little support for "complicated maneuvers" because the
applications they provide access to tend to be so ... well
... simple-minded.

I think there is room here for real UI inventiveness -- coming up with 
really effective tools for empowering arch users.

Wrappers seem to me like a basically sound approach: towards tla 2.0,
I hope to formalize the inputs and outputs of 'tla' a bit more, giving
them a well defined structure from which fancier UIs may be, largely
automatically, derived.


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