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RE: [Gnu-arch-users] recent changes

From: Derek Zhou
Subject: RE: [Gnu-arch-users] recent changes
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:56:29 -0800

You need to use latest tla (>=1.3.2, which can be downloaded from the
gnu website) or bazaar(1.4.x, which can be downloaded from canonical
website) to access Andy's archive. If you search the the mailing archive
you will get this information too. 
However, last time I checked, Andy's archive does not contain hackerlab
or package-framework, which are required to build tla. Those can be
found in Tom's archive:
BTW: Shall we use the system neon and expat from now on? Baz is already
doing this.  

-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden
[mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of
Robert Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:13 PM
To: address@hidden
Cc: address@hidden; address@hidden
Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] recent changes

On 11/14/05, Andy Tai <address@hidden> wrote:
> Hi, for these interested, just to note that I made mainly usability
enhancements to the current
> tla.


A friendly request:  Please include a pointer to the current relevant
branch of arch when posting about updates.  One of the more
off-putting characteristics of the tla project in the past was
seemingly endless churn of the official branch, the official archive,
the official bug list (especially!),  the official bug submission
process, the official release process, the official home page, etc. 
Generally a goodly amount of research was required just to figure out
where the latest sources were, and then you were never quite sure,
because that might have been branched into yet another set of official
sources, and there would be exactly no way of knowing that by looking
at what was in one point in time the official sources.

So I was interested in your updates, but I didn't know where the
latest sources were (again).

I googled GNU arch and found the GNU page.  So far so good.  No
mention of the location of the canonical archive there.  Ok, maybe
it's on the "maintainer's project home page".  Well, no, that points
to one of Tom's abandoned project page full of "blah" "blah"
placeholders.  Strike one.

So then I go to the Savannah site and find some archive information
there.  Oh, good.  I register the archive and do a 'tla get':

% tla get -A address@hidden tla--atai--1.3 tla-official
arch_archive_connect: attempt to connect to incompatible archive
  archive: address@hidden

That's a Big Problem (TM).  Please advise.

I am writing this up as a complaint because I support arch and want to
see it get used and adopted.  It won't get any following if this is
what people are seeing when they go try to get a copy of the source
controlled code.  tla was supposed to make all of this easier, not a
chronic PITA!


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