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Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Linus: "You're a moron. I'm the original a
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Alexander Terekhov |
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Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Linus: "You're a moron. I'm the original author" |
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Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:36:34 +0200 |
Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> >
> > Last I looked, TiVO was not the author of Linux. Did you sell out or
> > something? ;-P :-D
>
> You're a moron.
>
> I'm the original author, and I selected the GPLv2 for Linux.
>
> Tivo accepted that, and followed the GPLv2. Even the FSF lawyers agreed
> that they followed it.
>
> But Tivo *is* the "author" of their own proprietary applications, and it
> *is* the designer of their hardware.
>
> And exactly like I had the right to the choice of license when it comes to
> Linux, they have the right of choice to license and behaviour when it
> comes to *their* software and hardware (that is not a derived work of
> Linux).
>
> But you cannot follow a coherent argument, because you dont' *want* to
> follow it. Because following the logical argument would take you to a
> place where you don't want to be.
>
> I'm not going to bother discussing this any more. You don't seem to
> respect my right to choose the license for my own code.
>
> So one final time:
>
> - I chose the GPLv2, fully understanding that the Tivo kind of situation
> is ok.
>
> - the FSF lawyers too have acknowledged that what Tivo did was not a
> license violation, so I obviously am not confused about the issue: YOU
> are.
>
> - I think that what Tivo did was not only "technically valid" by the
> license, it was what I *intended* by my choice of license!
>
> And you are apparently totally unable to understand - or respect - that I
> actually made an informed decision that happens to be different from what
> you *wish* it were.
>
> Linus
regards,
alexander.
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