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Re: Linux is great, but is it cool?


From: Hadron
Subject: Re: Linux is great, but is it cool?
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:55:48 +0100
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ml2mst <address@hidden> writes:

> Roy Schestowitz schreef:
>> ____/ address@hidden on Tuesday 15 January 2008 17:15 : \____
>> 
>>> I am not convinced that truly cool things
>>> are happening any longer, because I am not
>>> seeing barriers being broken through at least
>>> in the area of software. Indeed, nor in hardware.
>>> Everyone involved in Linux seems to be using
>>> a hot-rod system that offers no barriers.
>>> Where is the cool?
>> 
>> Where is the cool in Mac OS? Or in Windows (where is the "Wow")? Are you 
>> using
>> an operating system to accomplish a task through applications? Or is it more
>> like a gaming console that you invite friends over to brag about in the 
>> living
>> room? Linux just works. It also has lots of fancy eye candy, sound/ear candy
>> (PulseAudio) and other 'toys', but few people require them. Where is the cool
>> in cars? Are you trying to get to places or are you just pumping up the 
>> volume
>> and whistling at girls on the pavement?
>> 
> I'm afraid, here we have yet another astroturfer (all trough I've might
> misinterpreted it).
>
> First of all Linus is not a hobbyist. At the time he created Linux, he
> was a student in computer science.
>
> Beside that, the use of "hobbyists" in this message is pretty insulting,
> since many hobbyists are very well educated, trough "self education".
> Such in contrast to the hordes of "clickety click Windrones" that don't
> know a piece of shite about computers.

So the people who write the modern games, or the engineering simulation
cad/cam sw, the .net stuff etc,etc,etc,etc don't know about computers
because they use Windows eh? You're seriously in need of some fresh air
old chap.

>
> Talented hobbyists flocked to GNU/Linux in the 1990's, simply because
> they demand to control their machines, on the other hand, Windows users
> are controlled by their Operating System, which is the worst scenario in
> the eyes of someone, who actually controlled his or her machines for
> decades.

No you moron. Talented people with REAL jobs wrote REAL SW for REAL
companies. They were not "limited" by the OS because the OS was merely
the OS - they used the APIs to write quality and best selling SW to meet
the developing IT needs of REAL businesses in the REAL world.

>
> "The cool" in GNU/Linux is that it was written by "geeks" for "geeks".
>

There is some truth in that.

> In my point of view "geeks" are people who *love* computers and simply
> know how stuff works, ether by official education or self education. The
> latter by reading loads of documentation (RTFM) and buying books and
> further more on a trial and error based.

No "Geeks" in IT are nervous failures with little if any grasp of how
technology and the tools are used to produce practical, usable SW which
people want.

> "The cool" in GNU/Linux is, that if you screw up, you are the only one
> to blame and thus have to educate yourself even more.

There is NO truth in that.

>
> "The cool" in GNU/Linux is, that it *actually* is cool and froody and
> that (until recently) it was pretty hostile to non geeks.

Poor you. It's less hostile to non geeks. You and Gregory Shearman
should share a room.


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