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Re: Red Hat pays $800,000 + costs for a patent deal


From: Rick
Subject: Re: Red Hat pays $800,000 + costs for a patent deal
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:15:43 -0500
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On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:11:58 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:

> "Rick" <address@hidden> wrote in message
> news:address@hidden
>> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:26:16 -0400, Ezekiel wrote: (snip)
>>> The patents don't protect the "community" - it only protects Redhat
>>> customers. From your very own link:
>>>
>>> <http://www.itnews.com.au/News/78210,red-hat-settles-hibernate-patent-
>> suits.aspx>
>>>
>>> [quote]
>>> Red Hat claims that the terms of the settlement will offer broad
>>> protection for upstream developers, downstream distributors and Red
>>> Hat's customers.
>>>
>>> "We wanted broad provisions that covered OUR CUSTOMERS, who place
>>> trust in us, and the open source community, whose considerable efforts
>>> benefit our business," said a statement from Red Hat's in-house lawyer
>>> Rob Tiller. [/quote]
>>
>> "We wanted broad provisions that covered OUR CUSTOMERS, who place trust
>> in us, and the open source community",
>>
>> ... covered our customers and the open source community.
> 
> That's a nice "sound bite" but it means absolutely nothing. It's the
> exact same deal that Novell has. No difference. And if it's so good and
> great for the open source community then why isn't the open source
> community embracing this wonderful deal? Why are they up in arms over
> this and upset with Ubuntu?

Red Hats says ..."We wanted broad provisions that covered OUR CUSTOMERS, 
who place trust in us, and the open source community"

> 
> 
> 
>>>
>>> If someone isn't a paying Redhat customer then they get ZERO
>>> protection. Quite hypocritical because Redhat screamed bloody murder
>>> when Novell signed what is effectively the exact same deal with
>>> Microsoft.
>>>
>>>
>> (snip)
>>
>> I have given you other resources that say the settlement protects RH
>> customers .. and the OSS community.
> 
> Your "resource" is nothing but a "feel good" statement that some mouth
> piece from Redhat used in a press release in a attempt to difuse the
> situation. The fact is that this is exactly the same deal as what Novell
> has. There is no difference. None.

Translation: you're just ignoring anything you don't agree with.

-- 
Rick


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