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Re: Time to put up or shut up!


From: Alexander Terekhov
Subject: Re: Time to put up or shut up!
Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 16:15:41 -0000

Hyman Rosen wrote:
> 
> On 4/14/2010 10:20 AM, RJack wrote:
> > Now, how do you cause a derivate work *that you have not yet* received
> > permission to create to be licensed to all third parties? Remember the
> > "event" must occur BEFORE permission to modify, copy and distribute is
> > granted. This is known as an "impossible condition" and is void. The
> > consequences of a void condition are construed against the drafter,
> > hence "promissory estoppel".
> 
> You are wrong, because you are misreading the license.
> 
> GPLv2 says <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html>
>      2.  You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any
>      portion of it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and
>      copy and distribute such modifications or work under the terms
>      of Section 1 above, provided that you also meet all of these
>      conditions:
> 
>      a) You must cause the modified files to carry prominent notices
>      stating that you changed the files and the date of any change.
>      b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that
>      in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or
>      any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all
>      third parties under the terms of this License.

"b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in
whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part
thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties
under the terms of this License. 

c) If the modified program normally reads commands interactively when
run, you must cause it, when started running for such interactive use in
the most ordinary way, to print or display an announcement including an
appropriate copyright notice and a notice that there is no warranty (or
else, saying that you provide a warranty) and that users may
redistribute the program under these conditions, and telling the user
how to view a copy of this License. (Exception: if the Program itself is
interactive but does not normally print such an announcement, your work
based on the Program is not required to print an announcement.) "

> 
> Permission to create a derivative work requires compliance only
> with section 2(a). It is the copying and distribution of the
> derivative work that must also meet the conditions of 2(b).

What are you smoking Hyman?

regards,
alexander.

P.S. "Every computer program in the world, BusyBox included, exceeds the
originality standards required by copyright law."

Hyman Rosen <address@hidden> The Silliest GPL 'Advocate'

P.P.S. "Of course correlation implies causation! Without this 
fundamental principle, no science would ever make any progress."

Hyman Rosen <address@hidden> The Silliest GPL 'Advocate'

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be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards 
too, whereas GNU cannot.)


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