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Re: Stallman calls for an end to file sharing war


From: Zoolook
Subject: Re: Stallman calls for an end to file sharing war
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:03:27 -0000
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On 08/10/2010 20:22, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
In gnu.misc.discuss Zoolook<address@hidden>  wrote:
Isn't the right way to support the artists to BUY it...

It's one right way, but not the only one.  Artists who perform on radio
or television don't get paid individually by each person
listening/watching.

My mistake, I should have said PAY FOR it, rather then BUY it... Over here, we have a thing called the TV license, effectively, a tax on watching television. Each individual pays a subscription THAT THEORETICALLY the broadcasting companies use the income from to produce (or license from other production companies) the broadcasts they put out. So anyone listening or watching a performer HAS paid them! Just not directly. Crucially, anybody listening to or watching a different broadcast has ALSO paid for them. If the artists do not receive the money owed them, that is the fault of the broadcasting/production company, NOT the person enjoying the broadcast!

.... thats like saying anyone who lives in (for example) China, should
pay a fee to (for example) the furniture industry (which China are a
pretty major player) even if they live in the middle of nowhere with
nothing but the same table and chairs for the last 20 years!

No, it's not like your furniture thing, which is a strawman.  Furniture
can not be reproduced at near zero cost whereas films and music can.
Maybe in the distant future, there will be a machine which can analyze an
arbitrary physical object and reproduce it from cheap raw materials, but
until that happens furniture will be essentially different from music.

Where I live, the electricity used in copying/downloading/streaming costs money, as does the medium I finally store it onto... that's decidedly LESS free then the virtually never ending supply of wood/cotton used to make furniture.

Its a totally ridiculous way to fund an industry!

Well, feel free to suggest an alternative.

Here's one, costing people NOT wanting the products no extra surcharge.

Offer incentives to download from authorised on-line stores (even preview weekends to try before you buy). I have bought more over steam then I ever bought in high-street... its convenient, easy, I don't have to spend money going there only to find the store has sold out... 9/10 times its cheaper... They have trial periods on the full products so you KNOW what your buying instead of relying on paid (easily bribed) reviewers.

On-line stores also have an advantage to offer promoting up and coming artists since the relative cost of hosting an album of (even free) mp3 tracks is little league compared to a TV/radio/roadside campaign... far more attractive to a record label.

Oh hang on... this is already being done isn't it! DAMN! I guess now anyone wanting to support the artists CAN pay for it now! Shocker!

> The difficulty seems to be
coming up with a way to collect payments which is as easy as downloading
music.  Downloading isn't going to stop any time soon.  Paying for
downloading by the item seems to be too difficult to arrange.

Paying for downloading by the item seems too difficult to arrange? Where did the £250 odd I spent over the last month through steam go then? Thin air? Your talking rubbish now...

However, something that might help is if you were told the truth about the music/film/whatever being the best thing in the world ever... its not... I was lied to in January about it being this years summer block-buster... its crap but I have just forked out money that I can't claim back off you cos the product (or cinema ticket) is used... what possible incentive is there now for me to buy a product off you next time? Fuck that, I am just gonna download it!

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