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Re: [gnugo-devel] [Gifu03-E] Result and SGF of GIFU CHALLENGE 2003 (fwd)

From: Gunnar Farneback
Subject: Re: [gnugo-devel] [Gifu03-E] Result and SGF of GIFU CHALLENGE 2003 (fwd)
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 20:33:30 +0200
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Inge wrote:
> Interesting to compare the results of Many Faces and Gnu go.  They
> never met, but ended up with the same result (5-4-0) with Many Faces
> ending up on 5th and Gnu to on 6th place.  The only difference was
> that Many Faces had one more point ("Sol.", whatever that means - Sum
> of Opponents ??) in the result table.  

Almost certainly the same thing as SOS, Sum of Opponents' Score.

> Many Faces and Gnu go lost to exactly the same opponents, namely those
> on places 1-4 KCC Igo, Haruka, Go4++, and Goemate.

More over four of the wins for both programs were against the same
opponents, the only difference was that Many Faces got to meet TSGO
whereas GNU Go met Martha. Many Faces only placed ahead due to a
little bit more luck with the pairing.

> I think that Many Faces is the first professional program that we
> might have a chance against,

I don't agree. GNU Go can beat any of the top commercial games
occasionally. In 21st Century Cup in 2001 GNU Go won against Wulu.
Recent tests by max-d shows GNU Go winning about one game in three
against Go++.

> and it would have been interesting to have had a game against
> it. 

That's indeed true.


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