Re: [gnugo-devel] endgame module for GNU Go

[Xavier Combelle]

Eric wrote:

> By "work", what I mean is that I want a champion,
> human Go player to value and enjoy playing GNU Go, and
> not just have it as a curiosity for novices.
You have great expectations. If gnugo could only play in the same style 
as a beginner,
he should be useful, but today, it only learn them how to play with bad 
mives

> As an artificial intelligence engineer, I am sickened
> by the many articles that have been written which make
> the claim that computers will never be able to play a
> decent game of Go. And I aim to put a stop to them.
Humm...  I already heard a lot of story about new commers
in computer go who realize that go is significant harder
than a lot of other programming job.
For me who is quite bad at go, I consider that go is a work
of exponantial complexity, so I am pleased to learn go, but
I consider that programming is all but easy. Even becoming pro
seems to be more reallist for me. (more reallist, not reallist at all)

> Also, Deep Blue (or Big Blue, or whatever is the name
> of it) didn't help the reputation of AI either by
> massively storing and doing look-up of all the chess
> moves, and then calling it an AI approach.
>  
The point is that massive storing and looking is not very easy  in go. 
So the job
would be hard to feed the AI.

> Because
> it's not. Procedural programming is not AI. They will
> never be able to try that trick with the game of Go.
> There are way more possibilities than in chess.
>  
Of course it's a good place to test AI, and some people try it.
But it seems that procedural programs are strongers than AI, for the moment.

> Similarly, GNU Go will never conquer the game of Go by
> relying exclusively on a procedural, pattern matching
> approach. It's a nice start, and it is impressive how
> far you folks have gotten with it. But it aint gonna
> get the job done.
>  
Conquer game of go? I hope you know what conquest is about, just because
go players are quite aware what strategy is about, so, make sure that 
conquest is part
of strategy of gnugo.