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Re: [Gnumed-devel] Fwd: Happy birthday Debian Med any announcement of MO
Re: [Gnumed-devel] Fwd: Happy birthday Debian Med any announcement of MOM
Thu, 10 May 2012 13:09:12 +0200
So the message took close to 4 monthes to propagate. Thanks for
sharing anyway ...
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:32:06PM +0200, Sebastian Hilbert wrote:
> Please see the message below. If anyone lurking here feels like helping out
> learning how to package and update software for Debian/Ubuntu please feel
> to contact the folks of Debian-med.
> Sebastian Hilbert
> Best regards
> ---------- Forwarded Message ----------
> Subject: Happy birthday Debian Med any announcement of MOM
> Date: Thursday, January 19, 2012, 09:47:44 AM
> From: Andreas Tille <address@hidden>
> To: Debian Med Project List <address@hidden>
> I'm happy to announce that the Debian Med project now has passed its
> 10th birthday which according to  should be considered
> Mon, 7 Jan 2002
> We are now in need of a master of ceremony who makes sure we will not
> forget this date next time. While we missed the date somehow I propose
> to do a small celebration at the Debian Med sprint at end of January
> in Southport.
> I would like to say thanks to everybody who helped the project
> developing from a single person with a crazy idea who started by picking
> up some orphaned biomedical packages to a strong team maintaining a set
> of over 200 highly specialised packages with a high quality standard.
> Many thanks - ten years ago I did not imagine that we could reach that a
> strong state!
> To ensure that this development of a strong team will continue I would
> like to propose a new effort I would like to call
> "Mentoring Of the Month" (MOM)
> In this program I would like to dedicate a part of my spare time to a
> newcomer (the "student") providing any packaging knowledge I have to
> enable him working more or less independently on packaging after passing
> this MOM period. I like to guide the student kindly into all secrets of
> Debian packaging at the example of a specific program which is in the
> focus of the Debian Med team. The student is free to pick the package
> however, I would like to have a vetoing right in case I see the package
> in some way as "unfit for the MOM project" (too complicated, too
> non-free, too far away from Debian Med topic, too whatever). At the end
> of the month the goal is that
> a) The package in question is finished and uploaded
> b) The student is able to do advanced packaging tasks and is
> introduced into the communication channels of Debian Med
> The communication about this should be tagged with "[MOM]" in the
> subject line of the exchanged mails to enable others who might not be
> interested to procmail it out of their focus and enables other potential
> students to learn from this.
> In this MOM process I would like to apply some strict rules:
> 1. If I'm posting something on the list containing [MOM] in the
> subject the student tries hard to respond with any comment (if not
> better possible something like: I have no idea but I will do some
> research like asking upstream or whatever - just leaving a hint
> that he feels responsible somehow).
> 2. The student tries to follow any of my commits to the package which
> is in focus of the MOM plan and favourably sends a comment like
> - Its OK for me
> - What does this mean, please explain
> - I would prefer ... instead of your change
> To get informed about the changes the student needs to be
> subscribed to the commit mailing list or at least do regular
> "svn up; svn log"
> He just tries to find a useful comment to any commit just to make
> sure he has understood things and will be able to do it himself
> in the future.
> 3. The student confirms that he succeeded in building the package
> according to the state in SVN in case it builds or he is able to
> reproduce the error message of the build process.
> 4. If there is any problem the student will ask on the Debian Med
> mailing list (tagging the subject [MOM] to not spam others to much.)
> This list should be the main communication channel to show others:
> a) we are working on a problem
> b) how things could be sorted out via open discussion
> c) how they could learn things about packaging
> We can also communicate via #debian-med IRC channel, however
> the time I have access to the evening hours (MET).
> 5. The student post a status report about the packaging every day
> reporting about changes he did, issues he faced or discussions
> he did with upstream etc.
> Please be careful. The MOM plan is *work*. While I would like you to
> show that work can be fun I expect the student to do some work in the
> same way as I offer to spend my spare time to do the other part of the
> work which needs to be done. So I will ask the student whether he did
> his part of the work if I have done mine. If not I will stop the work
> on this package and will continue with another MOM student and his
> package (in case there might be a waiting list).
> My hope in MOM is that we will be able to train those silent observers
> of the list to become more vocal. This training not only provides
> technical knowledge. I learned that this is only 50% of the job. The
> other part is communication which is heavily underestimated. I do not
> mean plain chatting - I mean communication which leads straight to a
> technical implementation.
> I'm really keen on seeing whether some students might raise their hand
> to take part in the MOM project.
> Kind regards
>  http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/01/msg00454.html
>  http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMed/Meeting/Southport2012
>  https://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-med-commit
>  http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-med-commit/
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