Maybe I should take the GNUStep version you produce, when it is ready, and substitute OS X screen shots for a separate OS X version. It might be too much to have both sets of images in one manual. Each could go in the appropriate trunk.
What do you think?
David Hill, Project Administrator
Simplicity, patience, compassion. These three are your greatest treasures (Tao Te Ching #67)
On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:01 PM, Paul Tyson wrote:
OK, I will aim to update all images and descriptions with what I see in
the gnustep Monet application.
If someone can provide screenshots from the OS X application, I can
include those as well (or, they could be added later). In the docbook
source, we can specify the platform for each image, which will allow
generation of separate manuals for gnustep and osx if desired.
On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 12:57 -0700, David Hill wrote:
Sorry for the delay in responding. The end of April is not a good time
for dealing with anything important other than Canadian income tax!!
On Apr 27, 2011, at 7:19 PM, Paul Tyson wrote:
What started as an attempt to correct a few HTML formatting issues
in the Monet manual turned into a conversion of the manual to
A task that is much appreciated.
I also took the opportunity to merge the separate documents for
adding postures and rules into the main manual. I created several
thumbnail images that were missing from svn. These are not the best
quality, since I just scaled down the full-size images, and I am not
a graphics expert.
One of the reasons I wanted to get the manual in shape is to help me
study the gnustep Monet application, but right off I find
discrepancies between the the manual and the application. As I
understand it: 1) the manual describes the NeXT version of the
application; 2) several changes were made in porting to OS X; and 3)
possibly other changes were made in the gnustep version.
My question is, can I take the existing gnustep Monet application as
the desired state?
It would be best to treat the existing Mac OS X version as definitive,
but the GNUStep version is supposed to be logically the same, although
-- naturally -- the GNUStep version does not use the Aqua interface.
Ultimately, a separate manual is required for each of GNUStep and Mac
OS X, where the text should be pretty well the same, but the screen
If so, I can modify the manual to match the current state of the
That would be a perfectly reasonable approach.
There are some windows that appear to be design improvements over
the screenshots in the manual, but I don't want to assume anything
without guidance from experts in the group.
Monet was improved during the port. The GNUStep version is the
In other words, would I go too far wrong by updating the manual to
replace existing screenshots with new ones from the current gnustep
Monet application (and updating the descriptions to match)?
You would be doing exactly the right thing.
I have no way of knowing how gnustep Monet diverges from the OS X
version. It would be possible to tag the variants in the manual, so
that you could either produce platform-specific versions of the
manual, or a combined version with the platform-specific differences
As noted, apart from the screen shots, the Mac OS X version and
GNUStep versions are supposed to be identical. The existing Monet
manual uses screen shots taken directly from a NeXT and represent the
original version which stays for the NeXT (anyone still running a NeXT
apart from me :-), but is superseded for the ported versions where the
operations are ordered and controlled in a slightly different,
hopefully better, way.
There may be changes in the future, but the manual is designed to
editable -- right?
David Hill, Project Administrator
Simplicity, patience, compassion. These three are your greatest
treasures (Tao Te Ching #67)
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