Re: Renaming GWorkspace to Workspace

[Gregory John Casamento]

Robert,
 
 All of your discussion about what is or is not on the USPTO site with respect 
to this and other TMs owned by Apple is entirely irrelavent.
 
 My point is that just because the TM is abandoned according to the USPTO does 
not mean that Apple will not sue us for naming applications the same as they 
do.   
 
 Do what you want, but, mark my words, it's tempting fate.

 Later, GJC 
 
--Gregory Casamento

----- Original Message ----
From: Robert Slover <address@hidden>
To: Gregory John Casamento <address@hidden>
Cc: address@hidden; GNUstep dev <address@hidden>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 4:47:16 AM
Subject: Re: Renaming GWorkspace to Workspace

I don't think this is necessary.  The NeXT application was called 
"Workspace Manager", the file wrapper was called "Workspace.app".  
Guerkan is asking for the file wrapper name to change, not the 
application name.  In effect, the discussion is about what to name a 
directory.

I just did a trademark search at the USPTO and don't find these 
registered.  This is a bit disconcerting, because I know the "Info" 
dialog on NeXTStep shows the phrase "Workspace Manager" with a TM 
beside it, and the legalese at the front of the manuals lists this as a 
registered trademark.  Somewhere in the info on the USPTO site I read 
that they have trademarks online back to 1870 or somesuch -- perhaps 
they only converted active ones when they made it available initially?

The term "workspace" was used by NeXT generically as the conceptual 
synonym that we use "desktop" for now, such as in the documentation 
chapter "Introducing the Workspace".  The application titlebar however 
labels the main application window "File Viewer", and everywhere else 
the term "Workspace Manager" is used.

Interestingly, anyway, NEXTSTEP was registered in February for some 
insurance company, nextSTEP in January by a publishing company, and 
there are other variants.   I do find other NeXT trademarks, marked 
"abandoned" in the database.  One I had never seen before was 
"JAVASTEP", abandoned in 1997 (serial 75128859).  The TESS server just 
stopped responding or I would cite more.

Anyway, I think the abandoned trademarks are pretty good evidence that 
Apple/NeXT have moved on, and don't much care about the legacy NeXTStep 
names.  Now, if you wanted to rename it "Finder", there might be an 
issue!  Of course, IANAL.

--Robert

On Sep 22, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Gregory John Casamento wrote:

> Enrico/Guerkan,
>
>  I would suggest another name, such as "Workplace", or something 
> similar.   Renaming it "Workspace" would be like me renaming Gorm as 
> "Interface Builder".  Something tells me that might be an issue. :)
>
>  Anyway... that's my $0.02.
>
>  Later, GJC
>
> --Gregory Casamento
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Enrico Sersale <address@hidden>
> To: GNUstep dev <address@hidden>
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 8:01:57 AM
> Subject: Re: Renaming GWorkspace to Workspace
>
> On 2006-09-22 14:28:50 +0300 Gürkan Sengün <address@hidden> 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> Is there anyone against renaming the GWorkspace application to just 
>> Workspace
>> ?
>>
>> I would welcome this rename.
>>
>> Yours,
>> Guerkan
>
> For me it's ok. But I can only change the name of the app to 
> "Workspace" and change "GWorkspace" with "Workspace" in NSWorkspace.m. 
> (I can't rename tons of classes and ivars that actually have the "GW" 
> prefix...).
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