|Subject:||RE: Re: [Groff] Groff Textbook|
|Date:||Thu, 15 Nov 2001 10:23:23 -0500|
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> From: address@hidden [mailto:address@hidden]
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> Subject: Groff digest, Vol 1 #597 - 16 msgs
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> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:14:23 -0700
> From: Clarke Echols <address@hidden>
> To: Tadziu Hoffmann <address@hidden>
> CC: address@hidden
> Subject: Re: [Groff] Groff Textbook
> Tadziu Hoffmann wrote:
> > HP used to have a very good (in my opinion) book on [nt]roff
> > and related utilities, the "Text Formatting User's Guide".
The HP book is OK. We have it here at work with our HP-UX system. I felt the
original Bell Labs documents covered the topic just as well. My desire for a
text book is not a matter of "getting the information" but in having it in a convenient,
Currently, I have two large 3-ring binders with all the Bell Labs Troff printouts. I use
the M. E. Lesk 1978 quick guide as a "cheat sheet" (4 pages) for use in the field. I found
all these documents on Lucent's web site. All were in pdf format.
I also think a textbook is a great way of supporting the project both financially (if FSF publishes it)
and in bringing in more users.
Three-ring binders are a pain. A book is better.
If HP has stopped printing their manuals, they would make many friends if they released
them in PDF format as Lucent has done. I have a feeling that the papers by Lesk, Ossanna,
Kernighan, Cherry will be useful for many years to come.
> > Clarke: What's the copyright status on this?
> HP holds a copyright on all of their manuals. However, the manual
> in question (much of which I wrote) is no longer listed in the manual
> page "manuals(5)", so I assume that they have eliminated it from the
> market in their inimitable cost-savings campaign. Given that, they
> might be willing to give an authorization to use it by GNU, but I
> don't know.
> I suggest a note to address@hidden . I've been gone for over
> two years now, and with downsizing and layoffs, etc., I have no clue
> as to whom one might contact directly. My principal reason
> for leaving
> was dissatisfaction with how certain individuals were running things
> -- the same individuals who made the decisions about what to drop from
> the list of manuals, and most of these individuals were not experts on
> the subjects being dropped.
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