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Re: What can I do to help? (conclusions)

From: rm
Subject: Re: What can I do to help? (conclusions)
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:29:11 +0200
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On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 08:26:05AM -0400, Dale P. Smith wrote:
> > It's absolutely criminal that you could come and ask for a job to do
> > and get turned away. There is so, so, so much to do. Shame on us!
> > 
> > I think there are a ton of projects that need to be done for Guile
> > that are not yet done. For example:
> > 
> >     * A SAX2 parser GOOPS interface and drivers for libxml, expat,
> >       xerces, etc.  (Whoever told you not to make it easy for Guile
> >       developers to use XML is a bonehead, by the way. XML will never
> >       be s-expressions, but that doesn't mean that using it isn't
> >       important!)
> That must have been me.  Yes, I'm a bonehead a lot.  Sorry.

No, you're not! Let's not talk about libxml-bindings for a moment
(more on that in a later mail) -- the problem with the above mentioned
things is simply: there's (almost) no documentation on how to do it.
Yes, a GOOPS-ish guile-libxml would be great, but there _is_ currently
no C goops interface. Throwing such a task at a newcomer is "absolute
criminal" :-) Oh, and i guess we shouldn't forget that libxml has several
dozent functions and about two handfull of smobable objects (and a pretty
tricky memory concept when it comes to guile bindings, if i might add).
I agree on the comments on XMLs boneheadedness ;-)

> I had visions of Guile using xml as a doc format (and other horrors) and
> responded without really reading your message.
> Being able to interface with other systems using xml is a good thing and
> needs to be done.  There is this stuff called soap that uses xml for
> rpc's (iirc).

Yes, considering the fact that xml seems to be GNOMEs configuration format
and the fact that many modern document formats are XML languages bindings
are important (SVG, XSL-FO, MS-Office, StarOffice, etc.).
For SOAP use i'd suggest a binding to one of the exisiting SOAP libraries,
it just doesn't pay of to deal with SOAP on the XML level.

  - Ralf 
> -Dale
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