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Pjotr Prins |
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Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:07:39 +0200 |
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On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 06:48:47AM +0200, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote:
> In the spirit of (friendly) provocation, I'd nitpick on the term
> ‘purist views’ and suggest the word ‘standards’ instead. ;-)
Alright. I concede ;)
> But seriously: the code reviews? Most Free software projects don't
> do nearly enough. Also, most Free software projects su^W should.
The number of contributors is not going up as fast as it should. I
have been quite exasparated with every package I submitted. Does that
mean I should stop packaging? Note that I actually like packaging, but
I feel mentally blocked to submit to the ML... Should we really leave
it to those that are more inclined to do the dance?
> >license, github etc.
>
> I've not seen any licence purism (yet) either. Anything Free, goes.
> No?
Yes, but there are also non-free packages in our repo. They do not
have to go in GNU Guix. I am a great fan of the FSF and GNU. I think
GNU Guix is pure genius. I always choose free over non-free. But we
also have to be pragmatic.
> I'm curious why GitHub's in that list. Sure, the upstream Guix
> repository isn't going to move there any time soon. There's no
> compelling reason to do so, and not relying on someone else's
> good-will is always a good idea. Not relying on someone else's
> proprietary secret SaaS is simply common sense. But I haven't
> seen any purist elitism towards GitHub users. I'm one.
People don't like github because it is non-free.
> >I understand the need for purism, and applaud the idea, but we are
> >throwing up too many barriers.
> >
> >Because GNU Guix is an extreme, ...
>
> Wow. I don't see that. At all.
Everything FSF and/or GNU is pretty extreme ;). It is a good thing. I
buy into it when I can. Barriers are there. Everyone is different, we
have to cater for that.
> As long as it's not a fork in any way: yes please!
We should consider a separate project that is aligned with trunk. I
don't want to divert, but to add to both.
Yellow-band Guix? With a Judoka embracing the Guix logo ;). 'A Guix
package project without an opinion' would be my choice of a slogan.
Judo instead of dancing.
I am not looking forward to having a separate project, but I don't see
much of an alternative. There will be a fear that actualy
contributions to GNU Guix can go down - there is that risk - but my
aim is to get more acceptance and contributors and eventually we all
gain. I am not worried about QA. Work can be self correcting - we
see that a lot.
I had a mug that said 'Stop me before I volunteer again'. This is one
of those moments... But I may just do it.
Pj.
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