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Re: [h-e-w] EmacsW32, gnuserv, pathes in .emacs

From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: Re: [h-e-w] EmacsW32, gnuserv, pathes in .emacs
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 23:19:49 +0300

> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 11:17:02 +0200
> From: Alessandro Vesely <address@hidden>
> I also hit Emacs recently and had an experience similar to Christian's.

Thanks for the feedback.

> IME, the tutorial is some 200~300 lines too long.

It omits some vital information even though you think it's long.  I
don't know how it can be possible to introduce a program of Emacs'
complexity in less than 1200 lines of text, and still do a good job.

> In the tutorial, the info help system is mentioned toward the end,
> at the point where a reader is likely to skip stuff that looks obvious.

It is mentioned in the end, because using Help is how a new user
should continue her education.  If we mention it anywhere else, it
will be forgotten by the time the user finishes with the Tutorial.

I'm sorry you didn't have time to read the entire tutorial, as
there's no slack there--every sentence is important and should not be

> Perhaps, the tutorial should propose exercises that involve using C-h i.

That's a good idea, but I don't see how we can implement it without
enlarging the Tutorial, which you say is already too large.

> For example, the tutorial explains incremental search in detail. Instead,
> it might explain how to go into the Emacs manual and read that, pushing
> the reader for really doing it in that very moment and then continue.

I'm not sure.  Search is such a fundamental editing feature that
without it one cannot edit.

> BTW, shouldn't the help screen come in a new frame?

Sorry, I don't think I understand what you ask.  Can you elaborate?

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