Re: MULE shows gibberish; now what?

[Ilya Zakharevich]

[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to
Stefan Monnier 
<foo@acm.com>], who wrote in article <5lzntvijqv.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu>:
> > "Something else" does not help.  What can it be?  I posted the
> > relevant parts of 'xrdb -query | grep -i font'.  What else?
> 
> I don't know what else.
> I assume you're using `emacs -q --no-site-file' right ?
> I've seen you mention --no-init-file (aka `-q') but not --no-site-file.
> Could there be some global config in site-start.el or default.el ?

Well, when I mentioned this, this were all the options.  ;-) But
meanwhile I tested it with -no-site-file too.

> Or does this Emacs come from some RPM or some other such package where
> the packagers might have changed the default ?

How would I find it?

> > Font or fontset: -misc-fixed-bold-*-*-*-*-140-75-75-*-*-*-1

> This is odd.  Maybe the other poster (can't remember who it was)

Hmm, do not remember seeing this message...

> was right: your Xserver has a weird font setup with an alias
> from <godknowswhat>-iso8859-5
> to -Cronyx-Fixed-Medium-R-Normal--15-140-75-75-C-90-RAWIN-R.
> 
> Can you try to look for RAWIN in the output of something like
> 
>     xlsfonts -ll -fn '*-iso8859-5'

OK, *this* I can do remotely.  ;-)  Done:

name:  -cronyx-courier-bold-o-normal--10-100-75-75-m-60-iso8859-5
  direction:            left to right
  indexing:             linear
  rows:                 0x00 thru 0x00 (0 thru 0)
  columns:              0x20 thru 0xff (32 thru 255)
  all chars exist:      no
  default char:         0x0020 (32)
  ascent:               13
  descent:              3
  font type:            Monospaced (font width not equal to AVERAGE_WIDTH)
  bounds:               width left  right  asc  desc   attr   keysym
        min               10    -1    -1    -1   -11  0x0000
        max               10     7    14    12     3  0x0000
  properties:           21
      SPACING               M
      FONTNAME_REGISTRY
      FOUNDRY               Cronyx
      FAMILY_NAME           Courier
      WEIGHT_NAME           Bold
      SLANT                 O
      SETWIDTH_NAME         Normal
      ADD_STYLE_NAME
      AVERAGE_WIDTH         60
      CHARSET_REGISTRY      RAWIN
      CHARSET_ENCODING      R
      PIXEL_SIZE            10
      POINT_SIZE            100
      RESOLUTION_X          75
      RESOLUTION_Y          75
      COPYRIGHT             Copyright (C) 1990, 1991 EWT Consulting, Portions Co
pyright (C) 1994 Cronyx Ltd.
      FONT                  
-Cronyx-Courier-Bold-O-Normal--10-100-75-75-M-60-RAWIN-R
      WEIGHT                10
      RESOLUTION            132
      X_HEIGHT              13
      QUAD_WIDTH            10

Etc.  A lot of them...  In fact there are 3 fonts which have
CHARSET_REGISTRY ISO8859, they have FOUNDRY ETL.  How do I convince
emacs to use them in preference to FOUNDRY Cronyx ones?

BTW, why -etl-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-80-iso8859-5 is
not prefered to the other guy automatically?  What are the criteria?

  -etl-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-140-72-72-c-70-iso8859-5
  -misc-fixed-bold-*-*-*-*-140-75-75-*-*-*-1
  -Cronyx-Fixed-Medium-R-Normal--15-140-75-75-C-90-RAWIN-R.

What can a sysadm do to fix this misconfiguration of thinking that
rawin-r is iso8859-5 (if it is one)?

Ilya