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Re: w3 under development or not?
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Ted Zlatanov |
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Re: w3 under development or not? |
Date: |
Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:31:26 -0500 |
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Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (usg-unix-v) |
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, pete_lee@swbell.net wrote:
>>>>> Ted Zlatanov writes:
>
> Ted> There are many, many such tools. For Unix mail servers the
> Ted> options are plentiful and a simple web search will turn
> Ted> them up. I don't use Windows mail servers but I'm sure
> Ted> similar tools exist for them.
>
> After a brief look at Procmail and SpamAssassin, I don't see how
> they solve the problem. Installing either locally still results in
> the mail being pulled down my small pipe from swbell.
You asked for server-side options. Procmail and SA are best
installed on the server if you want to cut down the download times.
> I suppose I could lobby for swbell to install SpamAssassin. But
> then I'm dependent on someone else setting up rules that could
> potentially cost me a valid email now and again.
With any reasonable ISP that provides you a shell account, you can
set up your personal rules in ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs
I use pair.com but there are many others.
> What would be cool is if (in Gnus) you could download mail headers
> only first... run through spam processor... then only download valid
> mail, and reprocess again including body. The spam would still show
> up in spam group, possibly annotated to show that only the headers
> have been retrieved on some (hopefully most). If you moved it to a
> ham group it would then fetch the mail, otherwise it would be
> expired and on expiry be deleted from the server the next time you
> asked for mail.
You can actually do all that and more with spam.el, a package for Gnus
which I maintain. Check out the CVS version of Gnus and look in the
manual (Oort Gnus comes with spam.el also, but many bugs have been
fixed meanwhile). spam.el is sort of a framework, and inside it are
various flexible spam checks you can enable depending on your needs.
I would still do server-side filtering in addition to client-side
filtering, but that's your choice and moving away from swbell is
certainly going to be a hassle for you.
To only get mail headers, use IMAP. There's more to it, I suggest you
read the Gnus manual in the spam.el section, but what you describe is
definitely possible - and you should continue the discussion on the
gnu.emacs.gnus newsgroup if you have any questions.
Ted
- Re: w3 under development or not?, (continued)
Re: w3 under development or not?, Friedrich Dominicus, 2003/11/13
Re: w3 under development or not?, Shane, 2003/11/14
- Poppong mail (Re: w3 under development or not?), Gian Uberto Lauri, 2003/11/14
- Re: w3 under development or not?, Peter Lee, 2003/11/14
- Re: w3 under development or not?, Ted Zlatanov, 2003/11/14
- Re: w3 under development or not?, Peter Lee, 2003/11/14
- Re: w3 under development or not?, Ted Zlatanov, 2003/11/14
- Re: w3 under development or not?, Peter Lee, 2003/11/14
- Re: w3 under development or not?, Juri Linkov, 2003/11/15
- Re: w3 under development or not?,
Ted Zlatanov <=
- Re: w3 under development or not?, Alan Mackenzie, 2003/11/17
Re: w3 under development or not?, Harry Putnam, 2003/11/14
Gnus attachment downloading blocks other Emacs interaction (was: w3 under development or not?), Ted Zlatanov, 2003/11/14
Re: OT spamfilter, A . L . Meyers, 2003/11/14
Re: OT spamfilter, Harry Putnam, 2003/11/14
Re: OT spamfilter, A . L . Meyers, 2003/11/15
Re: OT spamfilter, Tim McNamara, 2003/11/14
Re: w3 under development or not?, Joe Corneli, 2003/11/12