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From: | Lennart Borgman |
Subject: | Re: Icon designer wanted (Aquamacs Emacs) |
Date: | Fri, 06 Jan 2006 00:21:15 +0100 |
User-agent: | Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) |
David Kastrup wrote:
Thanks. If you see it this way then I understand what you write. It is however still a bit difficult whether some things that can not be made portable at the moment really makes it harder to switch. (Please excuse me if I am drifting off a bit here. I do that to be more clear.) Suppose those things makes Emacs more acceptable on that particular proprietary platform. Suppose also that those things depends on OS features that does not yet exist on GNU/Linux. Is it in the long run then better to provide those things on the proprietary platform or not?Correct. But the work that I have been criticising was intended to make it _harder_ to switch from MacOSX to GNU/Linux, by providing features only for MacOSX.
To me the answer is not self evident. Providing this "things" could in the long run make a pressure on GNU/Linux to provide them too. I have the feeling that this could be the case for some things in the GUI for example. (Last time I tried GNU/Linux I dropped it partly because I did not understand how to use the keyboard for all tasks. I never use mouse if I can avoid it: For sure I want to try again, but I want that "thing" to be implemented in GNU/Linux - in a manner that I should not have to relearn. That is me of course, but I suspect there are more persons like me in that respect.)
You have to search for the feelings. But it is very good if this can be seen as opposing viewpoints.I don't see hurt feelings (the only one getting personal instead of focusing on the facts in this thread was Tim, but nobody took him up on that). I see quite opposed viewpoints.
You are right. But I want to add that improving it for GNU/Linux only also can make it harder for people to switch from proprietary to free systems. I guess you agree, but I still want to make it clear since I think it is a very important point too.There is a difference between making Emacs available for proprietary systems (which makes it easier for people to switch from proprietary to free systems), and improving it for proprietary systems only (which makes it harder for people to switch from proprietary to free systems).
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