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Re: VAX/VMS
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Dieter Wilhelm |
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Re: VAX/VMS |
Date: |
Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:06:24 +0100 |
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"Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com> writes:
> On 11/23/06, Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> wrote:
>
>> VAX/VMS had a strongly typed file system
Could you briefly describe what a strongly typed file system is,
sorry?
Is this analogous to a "strongly typed" programming language? Is in
this sense C a strongly typed language? One must declare the type and
can interchange--with some exceptions--only same types. Would Lisp be
a weakly typed language, because the type information is stored in the
data itself?
>
> This is a feature. As it was its automatic versioning of files.
I read Vista is going to have something similar.
>
>> It also had a really
>> obscure syntax for file names, using []:. among other special
>> characters.
>
> Obscure only from another system's mindset. There was nothing obscure
> in its filename syntax from my POV.
>
>> And a zillion different kind of hardwired interacting
>> privileges that meant that ordinary users rarely were able to do what
>> they want, but hackers could do anything as there were always some
>> obscure path from "may use the printer privilege" to "can overwrite
>> system files privilege".
>
> As if that didn't ever happen on Unix, did it? :-)
>
>> The editors were EDT and later TPU. They were much better than vi, I
>> have to give them that. You can suffer them in Emacs with M-x
>> edt-emulation-on <ref> or M-x tpu-edt <ret>. (TPU was really a system
>> for writing editors in).
I really like Emacs but I think vi(m) is not so bad, after all.
>
> The usual TPU editor was called EVE (Extensible Vax Editor).
>
>> Some people liked VAX/VMS, typically the same who preferred Wirth
>> Pascal over K&R C. For the rest of us, Ultrix was a much more
>> productive environment, once you had installed Emacs in it.
>
> Thought I'm no Pascal freak, about the only language I wouldn't prefer
> over K&R C is BASIC...
>
For what it's worth, both of you can go on indefinitely, I like to
read about these things 8-)
> /L/e/k/t/u
--
Best wishes
H. Dieter Wilhelm
Darmstadt, Germany
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