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Re: page-at-a-time output for M-x shell


From: tomas
Subject: Re: page-at-a-time output for M-x shell
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:17:25 +0200
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On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 09:41:47PM +0200, Peter Dyballa wrote:
>
> Am 12.07.2009 um 19:40 schrieb Francis Moreau:
>
>> And why is it so hard to understand that a pager feature would
>> be nice in this package ?

[...]

> GNU Emacs is no terminal emulation. It does not need a pager. These 
> programmes were developed for hardware terminals from 20 or more years ago. 
> There is no sense in keeping them today, in a time of feature full terminal 
> emulations. They can be abolished together with atom reactors and bombs. 

Completely agree on atom reactors and bombs ;-)

But you can pry my 'less' from my cold, dead fingers...

How are you supposed to page around a hundreds-of-megabytes heavy log
file across a ssh connection: by first pulling everything before the pos
you want to jump to?

Besides, less is faster than anything else around (with exception of
possibly 'more', but this one feels really archaic, even to me).

> And your splendid idea.

Hm. See above. And besides, Emacs buffers can't cope with sizes a pager
would take quite happily (unless you go to 64 bit platforms, where I
would expect the difference to be irrelevant).

Regards
- -- tomás
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