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Re: What are advantages and disadvantages of RMAIL and mh-rmail ?
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William G . Gardella |
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Re: What are advantages and disadvantages of RMAIL and mh-rmail ? |
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Sun, 22 Sep 2013 20:33:11 +0000 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) |
Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> writes:
> wgreenhouse@riseup.net (W. Greenhouse) writes:
>
>> With MH-E you have the option of using the MH
>> implementation's command line tools to manipulate your
>> mail ...
>
> 100% correct, and that is a great advantage. If you go
> from a web mail service, be it Hotmail or even
> Gmail... -- to experience this transition is a *dream*!
>
>> Or, you can use Gnus as read-mail-command instead of
>> either of these, which is my own preference.
>
> How do you do that? It was very easy to setup RMAIL, I
> think below 30 minutes, but every time I see some
> tutorial about mail in Gnus it seems it requires hours
> of hacking (?).
That's because a lot of the tutorials suffer from bitrot; timeliness in
wiki pages and blog posts is a real problem, especially since software
configuration advice necessarily changes over time.
To set up Gnus for locally delivered mail (similar to how you'd use
RMAIL or MH-E, with system MTA/MDA facilities routing the mail to your
inbox, and the system MTA sending mail) is a very brief configuration.
Something like this is all that's really needed for this:
(setq gnus-secondary-select-methods
'((nnml "")) ;; This is similar to an MH mail store, with the
;; addition of news-server-like "news overview" files
;; that make the summary buffer's display faster.
message-send-mail-function 'message-sendmail-send-it
mail-user-agent 'gnus-user-agent ;; `compose-mail' and related
;; commands will use
;; message-mode with full Gnus features
read-mail-command 'gnus) ;; Clicking on the "Mail" flag in
;; display-time-mode launches gnus
;; instead of RMAIL
I use a setup similar to this, with the addition of other
`gnus-secondary-select-methods' elements corresponding to my IMAP
mailboxes. It is very nice seeing everything in one coherent interface.
> I use Gnus for Usenet and RMAIL for mails. But sometimes
> I get both Usenet posts *and* mails (with the same
> contents) as is often the case for this group, for
> example, so it is not optimal. Also, the "one big file"
> solution for RMAIL is not good.
Gnus offers a number of file-based mail backends. See (info "(gnus)
Choosing a Mail Back End").
> What's more, why shouldn't you use Gnus (or your
> favourite newsreader) for mail, as well? I use message
> mode for both (this required some minor hacks), and
> there seems to be noting separating them apart from the
> broadcast character of Usenet (but that can be
> implemented as a listbot as well, so again I see almost
> no difference).
Indeed, for Gnus an "article" is an article, regardless of how it was
delivered :) That abstraction has certain nice advantages (e.g. Gnus
can let you use score files and killfiles for mail as well as news).
--
Finally, Zippy drives his 1958 RAMBLER METROPOLITAN into the faculty
dining room.
- Re: What are advantages and disadvantages of RMAIL and mh-rmail ?, Emanuel Berg, 2013/09/22
- Re: What are advantages and disadvantages of RMAIL and mh-rmail ?,
William G . Gardella <=
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- Re: What are advantages and disadvantages of RMAIL and mh-rmail ?, Emanuel Berg, 2013/09/23
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- Re: What are advantages and disadvantages of RMAIL and mh-rmail ?, Emanuel Berg, 2013/09/24
- Re: What are advantages and disadvantages of RMAIL and mh-rmail ?, Emanuel Berg, 2013/09/27
- Re: What are advantages and disadvantages of RMAIL and mh-rmail ?, W. Greenhouse, 2013/09/27
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- Re: What are advantages and disadvantages of RMAIL and mh-rmail ?, Emanuel Berg, 2013/09/27
- Re: What are advantages and disadvantages of RMAIL and mh-rmail ?, W. Greenhouse, 2013/09/27