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Re: A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs


From: Jai Dayal
Subject: Re: A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 23:33:55 -0400

Actually, I would buy that argument if you asked for people's opinion on
Pulse and you got dishonest answers. Instead, you were asking for solutions
to a specific problem, and they were helping.

It's called "relevance"; it's something the Emacs community has a hard-time
understanding. That's why so many threads trail off and turn into
irrelevant discussions.

If you wanted to find out if Pulse Audio is an adequate tool, then you
should have sought opinions, not ask for help fixing bugs.


On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Rusi <address@hidden> wrote:

> On Thursday, August 28, 2014 4:47:42 AM UTC+5:30, Jai Dayal wrote:
> > Actually, nope. When I decide to install an OS, say CentOS, I do not
> expect
> > to find a discussion on the pluses and minuses of CentOS on the
> > installation page. That's a completely different topic that has nothing
> to
> > do with CentOS installation.
>
> In the FLOSS world what Jai is describing is the norm:
>
> For any system X
>
> - the X-folks talk of how to use and only its pros
> - the anti-X folks have all the time to bash unconstructively
> - a very short supply of balanced reasonable comparison and useful
> workarounds
>
> Jai seems to think this is a good separation.
>
> Personally I often find FLOSS folks at least as dishonest as the corporate
> types
> [No surprise, given that human beings are the same...]
>
> And diplomatic silence is often the most painful (for me) kind of
> dishonesty.
>
> Example:
>
> I joined the Linux audio list when I was having a hell of a time with some
> beast called pulseaudio. [I'm just an amateur musician... wanted to type
> some music... NO clue or interest in pulseaudio... Evidently it was
> obstructing
> something]
>
> I got some vague 'pro-pulseaudio' response on how to solve my problem.
> Nothing else. And my problem remained unsolved.
>
> After hanging around the list for months I slowly discovered that
> - most everyone hates pulse
> - people are doing apt-get purge pulse as routine
> - when that fails they are changing distros
>
> The fact that it took me months to find that out is what I call
> 'dishonest diplomacy'
>


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