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zsh outside of Emacs (was: Why do we need a number of different terminal

From: Karl Voit
Subject: zsh outside of Emacs (was: Why do we need a number of different terminal modes in Emacs?)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:55:03 +0100
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* Robert Thorpe <address@hidden> wrote:
> I'll explain the trickiness.  Shell-mode works in an Emacs-like manner.
> It hooks to an external shell, such as bash, ksh or tcsh.  It transfers
> *lines* to the shell.  It has to work this way, since the line is edited by
> Emacs editing commands.

Thank you very much for your detailed explanation!

However, this confirms my habit of using a Terminal emulator, with
GNU/screen[1], together with a great set-up of zsh[2].

Unfortunately, my GNU/Emacs tends to be very unstable[3] so that I
have to kill and re-start it several times a day. I handle this by
having a very tight auto-save-interval. Losing all of my open shell
sessions would be a disaster.

Sure, I have to copy&paste a lot between zsh and Emacs. However,
Org-mode/babel helps for very simple things as well.

Additionally, I need to sync Org-mode files, detach GNU/screen
sessions, log off the computer, put it into sleep mode, switch
computer, re-start GNU/Emacs session with synced Org-mode files, and
return to the other computer later on. Therefore, my GNU/screen
sessions run for much longer than my GNU/Emacs sessions.

I could not find good enough reasons to move my shell into GNU/Emacs
- even though I do basically everything inside Org-mode.

Quite recently, I stumbled over org-screen/ob-screen but it didn't
gave me enough advantages.

[1] Found no time or urgent reason to switch to tmux yet


[3] Different story, hard to fix by myself and hard to imitate for
    peers. I did not find an Emacs guru willing to spend time with
    me infront of my keyboard.
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