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Re: Help-octave Digest, Vol 32, Issue 2


From: Søren Hauberg
Subject: Re: Help-octave Digest, Vol 32, Issue 2
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 14:10:10 +0100

Are you using the binary from octave-forge? If so, then it comes with
most packages, when you install it. (At least I think it does, I've
never used it)

Søren

søn, 02 11 2008 kl. 05:02 -0800, skrev Steve MC Han:
> window
>  
> 
> --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Li <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
>         From: Li <address@hidden>
>         Subject: Re: Help-octave Digest, Vol 32, Issue 2
>         To: address@hidden
>         Cc: address@hidden
>         Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 4:03 AM
>         
>         My platform is FreeBSD, so I install octave-forge from ports,
>         
>         What is your os?
>         
>         Try to install octave-forge like other normal package.
>         
>         On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 03:47 -0800, Steve MC Han wrote:
>         > Hi I am a beginner of Octave. How do I install a package?
>         >  
>         > This is from FAQ in Octave-Forge
>         >  
>         > First you need to download the package, by going to the package web
>         > page and clicking download. Then start Octave and go to the 
> directory
>         > where you placed the downloaded package using the cd command. Then
>         > type 
>         > pkg install package_file_name.tar.gz 
>         > where package_file_name.tar.gz is the file name of the package you
>         > downloaded.
>         >  
>         > After I followed this direction and typed  pkg list, but it still
>         > responds "no packages installed" Where (which directory) do I
>         > download? 
>         >  
>         > Thanks
>         >  
>         > 
>         > 
>         > --- On Sun, 11/2/08, address@hidden
>         > <address@hidden> wrote:
>         > 
>         >         From: address@hidden
>         >         <address@hidden>
>         >         Subject: Help-octave Digest, Vol 32, Issue 2
>         >         To: address@hidden
>         >         Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 1:09 AM
>         >         
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>         >            1. help needed (al al)
>         >            2. Re: help needed (S?ren Hauberg)
>         >            3. Re: Octave for Mac OSX (Rob Mahurin)
>         >            4. Re: Octave for Mac OSX (Ben Abbott)
>         >            5. Re: Octave for Mac OSX (Rob Mahurin)
>         >            6. Re: Octave for Mac OSX (editing the Wiki) (Ben Abbott)
>         >            7. Re: Octave for Mac OSX (editing the Wiki) (S?ren 
> Hauberg)
>         >            8. Octave.app 3.0.3 for Mac OS X (Thomas Treichl)
>         >            9. matlab behaviour of gzip (Thorsten Meyer)
>         >         
>         >         
>         >        
>         ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>         >         
>         >         Message: 1
>         >         Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:15:59 +0000
>         >         From: al al <address@hidden>
>         >         Subject: help needed
>         >         To: <address@hidden>
>         >         Message-ID: <address@hidden>
>         >         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         Hello,
>         >          
>         >         I'm a research student and one part of my research is to use
>         an open source
>         >         tool such as octave to detect attacks on off line 
>         >         files as Intrusion detection system....We have agreed to use
>         Neural networking
>         >         for this problem...
>         >         Since I have no experiences in data mining and octave.... I 
> have
>         the following
>         >         questions :)
>         >          
>         >         1) Does octave is capable of doing this job ? i.e using 
> neural
>         networking to
>         >         detect the off line attacks on a system ?
>         >         2) Is there any neural network/octave packets that can be
>         installed on ubuntu
>         >         hardy from the apt-get ? any docs are welcomed..
>         >         3) Is there any on line documents that show you how to use 
> this
>         tool with
>         >         examples ( preferably neural network examples ) ?
>         >          
>         >         
>         >         I would like to thank any replies or any suggestions..
>         >          
>         >         regards
>         >         Al
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
> _________________________________________________________________
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>         >         ------------------------------
>         >         
>         >         Message: 2
>         >         Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:39:58 +0100
>         >         From: S?ren Hauberg <address@hidden>
>         >         Subject: Re: help needed
>         >         To: al al <address@hidden>
>         >         Cc: address@hidden
>         >         Message-ID: <address@hidden>
>         >         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15"
>         >         
>         >         l?r, 01 11 2008 kl. 21:15 +0000, skrev al al:
>         >         > I have the following questions :)
>         >         >  
>         >         > 1) Does octave is capable of doing this job ? i.e using
>         neural networking
>         >         to detect the off line attacks on a system ?
>         >         > 2) Is there any neural network/octave packets that can be
>         installed on
>         >         ubuntu hardy from the apt-get ? any docs are welcomed..
>         >         > 3) Is there any on line documents that show you how to use
>         this tool with
>         >         examples ( preferably neural network examples ) ?
>         >         >  
>         >         > 
>         >         > I would like to thank any replies or any suggestions..
>         >         
>         >         I don't know about your specific problem, so I can't
>         comment there. As
>         >         to using Neural Nets with Octave, then there are several
>         solutions.
>         >         
>         >           * Octave-Forge (http://octave.sf.net) has the 'nnet'
>         package which
>         >             contains functions for Feedforward Neural Nets. I've 
> never
>         used it,
>         >             so I can't comment on how to use it.
>         >         
>         >           * Some years ago, I created an Octave binding to the FANN
>         library,
>         >             which is a pretty good library for working with Neural 
> Nets.
>         My
>         >             binding is no longer maintained, so I'm not sure if it
>         still
>         >             works. If you feel like trying, you can get it from
>         >             http://hauberg.org/wiki/doku.php?id=octave-fann
>         >         
>         >           * You can use Bishop's Netlab from
>         >             http://www.ncrg.aston.ac.uk/netlab/index.php
>         >             I think most of this package works with Octave, but I
>         haven't used
>         >             it that much, so I'm not sure. If I were to use Neural
>         Nets (which
>         >             I doubt I would), then I think this would be the 
> software
>         I'd
>         >             choose.
>         >         
>         >         S?ren
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         ------------------------------
>         >         
>         >         Message: 3
>         >         Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:08:13 -0400
>         >         From: Rob Mahurin <address@hidden>
>         >         Subject: Re: Octave for Mac OSX
>         >         To: Thomas Treichl <address@hidden>
>         >         Cc: address@hidden
>         >         Message-ID: <address@hidden>
>         >         Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes;
>         format=flowed
>         >         
>         >         On Nov 1, 2008, at 10:48 AM, Thomas Treichl wrote:
>         >         > The 3.0.3 announcement will follow this weekend. BTW,
>         building  
>         >         > Octave.app is not a secret. The scripts that I'm
>         preparing and that  
>         >         > I'm using are all there at the Octave-Forge project in
>         the path  
>         >         > admin/MacOSX/...
>         >         
>         >         Not secret, but not easy to find either.  The wiki 
> instructions at
>          
>         >         http://wiki.octave.org/wiki.pl?OctaveForMac don't seem to
>         mention the  
>         >         octave-forge scripts.  The download pages linked on http:// 
>         >         octave.sourceforge.net have binaries, but not source.  If 
> you
>         follow  
>         >         the "SVN" link to
>         http://sourceforge.net/svn/?group_id=2888 , there  
>         >         is some boilerplate generic checkout command, a warning 
> that you  
>         >         probably don't want _everything_, and --- aha! --- a 
> smallish
>         link to  
>         >         "browse the repository".  From here I can make myself a
>         tarball from 
>         >         
>         >         another well-hidden link.
>         >         
>         >         It's a far cry from e.g. octave proper, where a page called 
>  
>         >         "download" has a link in a colored box at the top of the
>         page.
>         >         
>         >         Cheers,
>         >         Rob
>         >         
>         >         -- 
>         >         Rob Mahurin
>         >         Department of Physics and Astronomy
>         >         University of Tennessee             865 207 2594
>         >         Knoxville, TN 37996                         address@hidden
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         ------------------------------
>         >         
>         >         Message: 4
>         >         Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:31:15 -0400
>         >         From: Ben Abbott <address@hidden>
>         >         Subject: Re: Octave for Mac OSX
>         >         To: Rob Mahurin <address@hidden>
>         >         Cc: address@hidden
>         >         Message-ID: <address@hidden>
>         >         Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed;
>         delsp=yes
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         On Nov 1, 2008, at 6:08 PM, Rob Mahurin wrote:
>         >         
>         >         > On Nov 1, 2008, at 10:48 AM, Thomas Treichl wrote:
>         >         >> The 3.0.3 announcement will follow this weekend. BTW,
>         building
>         >         >> Octave.app is not a secret. The scripts that I'm
>         preparing and
>         >         that
>         >         >> I'm using are all there at the Octave-Forge project
>         in the path
>         >         >> admin/MacOSX/...
>         >         >
>         >         > Not secret, but not easy to find either.  The wiki
>         instructions at
>         >         > http://wiki.octave.org/wiki.pl?OctaveForMac don't seem to
>         mention the
>         >         > octave-forge scripts.  The download pages linked on 
> http://
>         >         > octave.sourceforge.net have binaries, but not source.  If 
> you
>         follow
>         >         > the "SVN" link to
>         http://sourceforge.net/svn/?group_id=2888 ,
>         >         there
>         >         > is some boilerplate generic checkout command, a warning 
> that
>         you
>         >         > probably don't want _everything_, and --- aha! --- a
>         smallish link to
>         >         > "browse the repository".  From here I can make
>         myself a tarball
>         >         from
>         >         > another well-hidden link.
>         >         >
>         >         > It's a far cry from e.g. octave proper, where a page
>         called
>         >         > "download" has a link in a colored box at the top
>         of the page.
>         >         >
>         >         > Cheers,
>         >         > Rob
>         >         
>         >         Thomas,
>         >         
>         >         Thanks for posting the info. When I encounter problems 
> building
>         via  
>         >         Fink I often thought it would be nice if your scripts were 
> readily
>          
>         >         available ... and they are! I'll be referencing them next 
> time
>         I have  
>         >         problems.
>         >         
>         >         Rob,
>         >         
>         >         The contributers each follow their passions. There are many
>         instances  
>         >         where I find the approach of others not quite to my liking. 
> My  
>         >         solution (as is "Octave proper") is to do something
>         about it myself.
>         >         I  
>         >         agree it would be nice if Octave's documentation were a bit
>         better. We  
>         >         are fortunate that some new contributers have begun taking 
> on this
>          
>         >         task. However, there is still more work than can be easily 
> handled
>         by  
>         >         them. If there is some specific you don't think is getting 
> the
>          
>         >         attention it deserves, please contribute. All Mac users 
> (including
>          
>         >         myself) would surely appreciate you effort!
>         >         
>         >         Ben
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         ------------------------------
>         >         
>         >         Message: 5
>         >         Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:40:52 -0400
>         >         From: Rob Mahurin <address@hidden>
>         >         Subject: Re: Octave for Mac OSX
>         >         To: Ben Abbott <address@hidden>
>         >         Cc: address@hidden
>         >         Message-ID: <address@hidden>
>         >         Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes;
>         format=flowed
>         >         
>         >         On Nov 1, 2008, at 6:31 PM, Ben Abbott wrote:
>         >         > Rob,
>         >         >
>         >         > The contributers each follow their passions. There are 
> many  
>         >         > instances where I find the approach of others not quite 
> to my
>          
>         >         > liking. My solution (as is "Octave proper") is to
>         do something  
>         >         > about it myself. I agree it would be nice if Octave's
>         documentation  
>         >         > were a bit better. We are fortunate that some new
>         contributers have  
>         >         > begun taking on this task. However, there is still more 
> work
>         than  
>         >         > can be easily handled by them. If there is some specific 
> you
>         don't  
>         >         > think is getting the attention it deserves, please
>         contribute. All  
>         >         > Mac users (including myself) would surely appreciate you
>         effort!
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         Hi Ben,
>         >         
>         >         If I had write access to the wiki, I would add a paragraph 
> like
>         >         
>         >         > The scripts used to build the octave-forge Octave.app can 
> be
>         found  
>         >         > in <a
>         href="http://octave.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/octave/trunk/
>         >         
>         >         > octave-forge/admin/MacOSX/">the sourceforge
>         subversion
>         >         repository</a>.
>         >         
>         >         to the section "Source-Compilation" of the page http:// 
>         >         wiki.octave.org/wiki.pl?OctaveForMac
>         >         
>         >         Cheers,
>         >         Rob
>         >         
>         >         -- 
>         >         Rob Mahurin
>         >         Department of Physics and Astronomy
>         >         University of Tennessee             865 207 2594
>         >         Knoxville, TN 37996                         address@hidden
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         ------------------------------
>         >         
>         >         Message: 6
>         >         Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:20:15 -0500
>         >         From: Ben Abbott <address@hidden>
>         >         Subject: Re: Octave for Mac OSX (editing the Wiki)
>         >         To: Rob Mahurin <address@hidden>
>         >         Cc: address@hidden
>         >         Message-ID: <address@hidden>
>         >         Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed;
>         delsp=yes
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:40 AM, Rob Mahurin wrote:
>         >         
>         >         > On Nov 1, 2008, at 6:31 PM, Ben Abbott wrote:
>         >         >> Rob,
>         >         >>
>         >         >> The contributers each follow their passions. There are
>         many  
>         >         >> instances where I find the approach of others not quite
>         to my  
>         >         >> liking. My solution (as is "Octave proper") is
>         to do
>         >         something  
>         >         >> about it myself. I agree it would be nice if Octave's
>         >         documentation  
>         >         >> were a bit better. We are fortunate that some new
>         contributers have  
>         >         >> begun taking on this task. However, there is still more
>         work than  
>         >         >> can be easily handled by them. If there is some specific
>         you don't
>         >          
>         >         >> think is getting the attention it deserves, please
>         contribute. All  
>         >         >> Mac users (including myself) would surely appreciate you
>         effort!
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         > Hi Ben,
>         >         >
>         >         > If I had write access to the wiki, I would add a paragraph
>         like
>         >         >
>         >         >> The scripts used to build the octave-forge Octave.app can
>         be found  
>         >         >> in <a
>         >        
>         
> href="http://octave.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/octave/trunk/octave-forge/admin/MacOSX/
>         >         
>         >         >> ">the sourceforge subversion
>         repository</a>.
>         >         >
>         >         > to the section "Source-Compilation" of the page
>         >         http://wiki.octave.org/wiki.pl?OctaveForMac
>         >         >
>         >         > Cheers,
>         >         > Rob
>         >         
>         >         The wiki certainly needs some work. For example this page 
> below  
>         >         indicates that editing is not restricted, but as there have 
> been
>         some  
>         >         defacements, it obviously is not.
>         >         
>         >             http://wiki.octave.org/wiki.pl?UserName
>         >         
>         >         Perhaps David can give us some instruction on how to gain 
> access.
>         >         
>         >         Ben
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         ------------------------------
>         >         
>         >         Message: 7
>         >         Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 08:36:26 +0100
>         >         From: S?ren Hauberg <address@hidden>
>         >         Subject: Re: Octave for Mac OSX (editing the Wiki)
>         >         To: Ben Abbott <address@hidden>
>         >         Cc: address@hidden
>         >         Message-ID: <address@hidden>
>         >         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15"
>         >         
>         >         s?n, 02 11 2008 kl. 02:20 -0500, skrev Ben Abbott:
>         >         > The wiki certainly needs some work. For example this page
>         below  
>         >         > indicates that editing is not restricted, but as there 
> have
>         been some  
>         >         > defacements, it obviously is not.
>         >         > 
>         >         >   http://wiki.octave.org/wiki.pl?UserName
>         >         > 
>         >         > Perhaps David can give us some instruction on how to gain
>         access.
>         >         
>         >         Just ask for a password at address@hidden (the
>         >         Octave-Forge list), and Etienne will provide you with one.
>         >         
>         >         S?ren
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         ------------------------------
>         >         
>         >         Message: 8
>         >         Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:55:39 +0100
>         >         From: Thomas Treichl <address@hidden>
>         >         Subject: Octave.app 3.0.3 for Mac OS X
>         >         To: octave-forge list
>         <address@hidden>,     Octave_post
>         >             <address@hidden>
>         >         Message-ID: <address@hidden>
>         >         Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>         >         
>         >         Hi,
>         >         
>         >         I have uploaded the compressed disc images *.dmg including
>         Octave.app 3.0.3
>         >         for PPC Mac OS X and i386 Mac OS X to the SourceForge's
>         server. You can get
>         >         it from http://octave.sourceforge.net. Please read the 
> Readme.html
>         file that
>         >         comes with the *.dmg about 'Installation', 'FAQ',
>         >         'Limitations', etc.
>         >         
>         >         I'm also very happy to see more than 8.300 downloads over 
> the
>         past 3 months
>         >         for Octave.app 3.0.2. However, please don't forget that all
>         this is quite a
>         >         lot of work and your help is still needed in the 
> development and
>         contribution
>         >         to the GNU Octave project.
>         >         Further, if you like GNU Octave then please also think 
> about of
>         making a
>         >         donation to the Octave Core Development team. A description 
> can be
>         found
>         >         at http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/funding.html.
>         >         
>         >         Recent changes:
>         >         
>         >         - the latest stable Octave 3.0.3 sources available have 
> been used
>         to build
>         >            these binaries,
>         >         
>         >         - Gnuplot.app 4.2.3 can be found in the Extras directory of 
> the
>         *.dmg.
>         >            Again, please read the Readme.html file about
>         'Installation',
>         >            'Limitations', 'FAQ', etc. for Gnuplot.app of
>         that
>         >         compressed disc image.
>         >         
>         >         - the checksums of the *.dmg are
>         >            - MD5 (octave-3.0.3-ppc.dmg) = 
> 29a95fcb883110f3bff3c7c3ac5996cd
>         >            - MD5 (octave-3.0.3-i386.dmg) =
>         04e5abb7419d24fef70ea4cf662f5c5d
>         >         
>         >         *Note:*
>         >         
>         >         - the 3.0.x Octave.app series will be the last series that 
> *I*
>         also can build
>         >            for PPC Mac OS X 10.3.x too. The new 3.2.x series needs 
> a more
>         modern system
>         >            and therefore requires Mac OS X 10.4.x or higher for both
>         platforms.
>         >         
>         >         Regards,
>         >         
>         >            Thomas
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         ------------------------------
>         >         
>         >         Message: 9
>         >         Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 10:09:09 +0100
>         >         From: Thorsten Meyer <address@hidden>
>         >         Subject: matlab behaviour of gzip
>         >         To: address@hidden
>         >         Message-ID: <address@hidden>
>         >         Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>         >         
>         >         Hi,
>         >         
>         >         could someone with access to matlab try what the gzip 
> function
>         produces for
>         >         these examples:
>         >         
>         >          - prepare a few files in the shell:
>         >                 mkdir ttt
>         >             mkdir ttt/bla
>         >             mkdir ttt/bla/blubb
>         >             touch ttt/bla/11
>         >             touch ttt/bla/22
>         >             touch ttt/bla/33
>         >                 touch ttt/bla/blubb/44
>         >             mkdir ttt/zip
>         >          - then in matlab:
>         >             cd ttt
>         >                 gzip("bla")
>         >                 ls (or is it dir in matlab?)
>         >             gzip("bla", "zip")
>         >             ls zip
>         >         
>         >         What I am interested in: where do the gzipped files 11.gz 
> etc. end
>         up in both
>         >         cases? Do all the .gz
>         >         files end up directly in the zip directory or is the 
> directory
>         hierarchy (bla
>         >         and bla/blubb)
>         >         reproduced under zip?
>         >         
>         >         In octave gzip("bla") gives an error reproduces the
>         directory
>         >         hierarchy in the zip directory. And
>         >         when gzip is called with out the target directory argument, 
> it
>         gives an error.
>         >         I would like to know,
>         >         what matlab does before trying to fix this bug.
>         >         
>         >         thanks
>         >         
>         >         Thorsten
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
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