Re: How to use own newer version of gnus at $HOME

[Lars Tobias Borsting]

Thanx, Jesper, I now get backtrace up.

>> How can I find out which movemail-program is being used, or where to
>> find one and specify it?

>There's `mail-source-movemail-program'.

First of all, I don't find this program when typing M-x
mail-source-... I only get these possible completions:
   mail-source-delete-old-incoming
   mail-source-report-new-mail

>> I have got the news stuff working, but I can't seem to get the mail.

>Well, the mail feching functions changed a lot between 5.6 and 5.8.
>You probably need to update your settings to the "new" functions.

OK, but I don't see any difference between the different manuals on the
nnml-backend. Here's my mail source settings:

(add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nnml ""))

I don't see anything wrong with it, but it doesn't work. One thing: I
use maildir as my incoming mail folder at $HOME/mail/INBOX, but my $MAIL
environment variable says "echo $MAIL" is "$HOME/mail/INBOX" and not
"$HOME/mail/INBOX/". But that was no problem with version 5.6.

Here's the backtrace from emacs-mail-crashbox at startup:

------------ START ----------------
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (quit)
  call-process("/store/libexec/emacs/21.3/sparc-sun-solaris2.8/movemail" nil 
#<buffer  *mail source loss*<4>> nil 
"/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" 
"/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/.emacs-mail-crash-box")
  apply(call-process ("/store/libexec/emacs/21.3/sparc-sun-solaris2.8/movemail" 
nil #<buffer  *mail source loss*<4>> nil 
"/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" 
"/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/.emacs-mail-crash-box"))
  mail-source-movemail("/home/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" 
"~/.emacs-mail-crash-box")
  mail-source-fetch-file((file) #[(file orig-file) "<non printable characters 
snipped out>" [file orig-file nnmail-split-incoming nnml-save-mail nil 
nnmail-get-split-group (file) nnml-active-number] 7])
  mail-source-fetch((file) #[(file orig-file) "<non printable characters 
snipped out>"[file orig-file nnmail-split-incoming nnml-save-mail nil 
nnmail-get-split-group (file) nnml-active-number] 7])
  nnmail-get-new-mail(nnml nnml-save-nov "~/Mail/" nil)
  nnml-request-scan(nil "")
  gnus-request-scan(nil (nnml ""))
  gnus-read-active-file-1((nnml "") nil)
  gnus-read-active-file(nil nil)
  gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil)
  byte-code("<non printable characters snipped out>" [dont-connect did-connect 
gnus-startup-file gnus-current-startup-file gnus-slave gnus-use-dribble-file 
gnus-group-quit gnus-run-hooks gnus-startup-hook gnus-make-newsrc-file 
gnus-dribble-read-file bbb-login add-hook gnus-summary-mode-hook 
gnus-grouplens-mode gnus-request-create-group "queue" (nndraft "") "drafts" 
(nndraft "") gnus-setup-news nil gnus-setup-news-hook gnus-start-draft-setup 
gnus-group-list-groups gnus-group-first-unread-group gnus-configure-windows 
group gnus-group-set-mode-line gnus-started-hook gnus-use-grouplens gnus-agent 
level] 4)
  gnus-1(nil nil nil)
  gnus(nil)
  call-interactively(gnus)
  execute-extended-command(nil)
  call-interactively(execute-extended-command)
  recursive-edit()
  byte-code("<non printable characters snipped out>" [debugger-buffer 
debugger-args noninteractive debugger-batch-max-lines middlestart 
buffer-read-only pop-to-buffer debugger-mode debugger-setup-buffer count-lines 
2 "...\n" message buffer-string kill-emacs debug backtrace-debug 3 t 
debugger-reenable "" nil recursive-edit standard-output inhibit-trace] 3)
  debug(error (quit))
  call-process("/store/libexec/emacs/21.3/sparc-sun-solaris2.8/movemail" nil 
#<buffer  *mail source loss*> nil "/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" 
"/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/.emacs-mail-crash-box")
  apply(call-process ("/store/libexec/emacs/21.3/sparc-sun-solaris2.8/movemail" 
nil #<buffer  *mail source loss*> nil 
"/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" 
"/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/.emacs-mail-crash-box"))
  mail-source-movemail("/home/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" 
"~/.emacs-mail-crash-box")
  mail-source-fetch-file((file) #[(file orig-file) "<non printable characters 
snipped out>" [file orig-file nnmail-split-incoming nnml-save-mail nil 
nnmail-get-split-group (file) nnml-active-number] 7])
  mail-source-fetch((file) #[(file orig-file) "<non printable characters 
snipped out>"[file orig-file nnmail-split-incoming nnml-save-mail nil 
nnmail-get-split-group (file) nnml-active-number] 7])
  nnmail-get-new-mail(nnml nnml-save-nov "~/Mail/" nil)
  nnml-request-scan(nil "")
  gnus-request-scan(nil (nnml ""))
  gnus-read-active-file-1((nnml "") nil)
  gnus-read-active-file(nil nil)
  gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil)
  byte-code("<non printable characters snipped out>" [dont-connect did-connect 
gnus-startup-file gnus-current-startup-file gnus-slave gnus-use-dribble-file 
gnus-group-quit gnus-run-hooks gnus-startup-hook gnus-make-newsrc-file 
gnus-dribble-read-file bbb-login add-hook gnus-summary-mode-hook 
gnus-grouplens-mode gnus-request-create-group "queue" (nndraft "") "drafts" 
(nndraft "") gnus-setup-news nil gnus-setup-news-hook gnus-start-draft-setup 
gnus-group-list-groups gnus-group-first-unread-group gnus-configure-windows 
group gnus-group-set-mode-line gnus-started-hook gnus-use-grouplens gnus-agent 
level] 4)
  gnus-1(nil nil nil)
  gnus(nil)
  call-interactively(gnus)
  execute-extended-command(nil)
  call-interactively(execute-extended-command)
------------------ END --------------------

And here's the one I get after pressing g in the Group buffer when
emacs-mail-crash-box is terminated:

------------------ START ------------------
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (quit)
  call-process("/store/libexec/emacs/21.3/sparc-sun-solaris2.8/movemail" nil 
#<buffer  *mail source loss*<5>> nil 
"/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" 
"/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/.emacs-mail-crash-box")
  apply(call-process ("/store/libexec/emacs/21.3/sparc-sun-solaris2.8/movemail" 
nil #<buffer  *mail source loss*<5>> nil 
"/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" 
"/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/.emacs-mail-crash-box"))
  mail-source-movemail("/home/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" 
"~/.emacs-mail-crash-box")
  mail-source-fetch-file((file) #[(file orig-file) "<non printable characters 
snipped out>" [file orig-file nnmail-split-incoming nnml-save-mail nil 
nnmail-get-split-group (file) nnml-active-number] 7])
  mail-source-fetch((file) #[(file orig-file) "<non printable characters 
snipped out>"[file orig-file nnmail-split-incoming nnml-save-mail nil 
nnmail-get-split-group (file) nnml-active-number] 7])
  nnmail-get-new-mail(nnml nnml-save-nov "~/Mail/" nil)
  nnml-request-scan(nil "")
  gnus-request-scan(nil (nnml ""))
  gnus-read-active-file-1((nnml "") nil)
  gnus-read-active-file()
  gnus-group-get-new-news(nil)
  call-interactively(gnus-group-get-new-news)
  recursive-edit()
  byte-code("<non printable characters snipped out>" [debugger-buffer 
debugger-args noninteractive debugger-batch-max-lines middlestart 
buffer-read-only pop-to-buffer debugger-mode debugger-setup-buffer count-lines 
2 "...\n" message buffer-string kill-emacs debug backtrace-debug 3 t 
debugger-reenable "" nil recursive-edit standard-output inhibit-trace] 3)
  debug(error (quit))
  call-process("/store/libexec/emacs/21.3/sparc-sun-solaris2.8/movemail" nil 
#<buffer  *mail source loss*> nil "/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" 
"/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/.emacs-mail-crash-box")
  apply(call-process ("/store/libexec/emacs/21.3/sparc-sun-solaris2.8/movemail" 
nil #<buffer  *mail source loss*> nil 
"/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" 
"/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/.emacs-mail-crash-box"))
  mail-source-movemail("/home/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" 
"~/.emacs-mail-crash-box")
  mail-source-fetch-file((file) #[(file orig-file) "<non printable characters 
snipped out>"" [file orig-file nnmail-split-incoming nnml-save-mail nil 
nnmail-get-split-group (file) nnml-active-number] 7])
  mail-source-fetch((file) #[(file orig-file) "<non printable characters 
snipped out>"" [file orig-file nnmail-split-incoming nnml-save-mail nil 
nnmail-get-split-group (file) nnml-active-number] 7])
  nnmail-get-new-mail(nnml nnml-save-nov "~/Mail/" nil)
  nnml-request-scan(nil "")
  gnus-request-scan(nil (nnml ""))
  gnus-read-active-file-1((nnml "") nil)
  gnus-read-active-file(nil nil)
  gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil)
  byte-code("<non printable characters snipped out>" [dont-connect did-connect 
gnus-startup-file gnus-current-startup-file gnus-slave gnus-use-dribble-file 
gnus-group-quit gnus-run-hooks gnus-startup-hook gnus-make-newsrc-file 
gnus-dribble-read-file bbb-login add-hook gnus-summary-mode-hook 
gnus-grouplens-mode gnus-request-create-group "queue" (nndraft "") "drafts" 
(nndraft "") gnus-setup-news nil gnus-setup-news-hook gnus-start-draft-setup 
gnus-group-list-groups gnus-group-first-unread-group gnus-configure-windows 
group gnus-group-set-mode-line gnus-started-hook gnus-use-grouplens gnus-agent 
level] 4)
  gnus-1(nil nil nil)
  gnus(nil)
  call-interactively(gnus)
  execute-extended-command(nil)
  call-interactively(execute-extended-command)
-------------------- END ---------------------

Thanx for the assitance!

Regards,
Lars Tobias Borsting