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Re: FYI: spamcop listing

From: Ralf Wildenhues
Subject: Re: FYI: spamcop listing
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:28:34 +0100
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NOTE: if you have not read the message I am replying to and quoting,
then this concerns *you*!

* Ralf Wildenhues wrote on Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 10:01:28AM CET:
> Spamcop has listed the mailing list server.  Several members of
> at least one of the Libtool lists have had their subscription disabled
> because their mail servers reject based on spamcop alone.

The mail server is off the list again now.

> This sucks majorly, as it prevents communication with people.  Some of
> the users that got their subscription disabled have recently taken part
> in discussion and will necessarily miss some messages directed at them
> now; sending to them off-list is of no help, some addresses seem to
> accept list email only.
> When the server is delisted again, I will wait a bit more, then enable
> manually all subscriptions that got disabled this way, and send this
> message again, so it has a better chance to reach them.

Done now.

> For over a half year now, the Libtool lists implement first-post
> moderation, and the number of spam that got through has dropped to
> almost zero since then.  The moderation is a nonzero amount of extra
> work that goes away from Libtool development.
> I expect in return that users get their mail servers to NOT REJECT BASED
> SOLELY ON SPAMCOP.  If they cannot achieve that (because of corporate
> rules, whatever), then please simply don't subscribe with such an email
> address, or subscribe but turn off delivery.
> It would also be good to look at the other lists they are
> subscribed to: if any are open and send nontrivial amounts of spam,
> please notify the respective list owner to do something about this,
> for example first-post moderation.
> I won't repeat this procedure the next time this happens.
> Cheers,
> Ralf

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