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Re: hairpin cresc. and decresc. do not line up.

 From: Mats Bengtsson Subject: Re: hairpin cresc. and decresc. do not line up. Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:57:11 +0100 User-agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206)

You should always end a (de)crescendo with a \! even if there is a new
dynamic starting on the same note.

I would propose the following
gis8( \< e') e'-. <<e'-. {s16 s \!\> }>> e'8-. e'-. e'-. e'-. \! |
alternative solution.

/Mats

Stephen wrote:

Soon after I made the last post, I realized that crescendos can end in two ways. Either with \! or with another dynamic mark. And if you let the crescendo or decrescendo be terminated with a dynamic mark it will line up with that mark horizontally. But this caused the cresc., decresc pair to line up horizontally and no longer be equally wide as they were in the example, when they were each attached to four eighth notes. In order for them to be equally wide again, the crescendo would have to end and the decrescendo would have to start on a note in the center of the measure. I figured out that this is possible, using triplets.

s4\< s8 \times 2/3 { s s\> s } s s s\!

The example looks like

<<
{ gis( e') e'-. e'-. e'-. e'-. e'-. e'-. }
{
\override TupletBracket  #'bracket-visibility = ##f
\override TupletBracket  #'number-visibility = ##f
s4\< s8 \times 2/3 { s s\> s } s s s\! }
>> |

By the way, I should have used \oneVoice instead of \stemNeutral when using
polyphony in order to get the articulations to work normally. Just changing
the stem direction alone didn't work in all cases.


Notice how I hid the triplet bracket. The overrides must be reverted at the next triplet.

Stephen


----- Original Message ----- From: "Mats Bengtsson" <address@hidden>
To: "Stephen" <address@hidden>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: hairpin cresc. and decresc. do not line up.


If you end the crescendo at the same note as you start the diminuendo,
then LilyPond will make sure that they line up. I don't understand why
you use the extra line of spacing notes in your example, you could just
as well insert the dynamic indications directly at the notes.

However, if you want the change between crescendo and diminuendo to be
typeset just before the middle of the bar, you could do
<<
{ \stemNeutral gis( e') e'-. e'-. e'-. e'-. e'-. e'-. | }
{ s4..\< s16 \!\> s4. s8\! }
>>

for example.

/Mats

Stephen wrote:


In the Beethoven Horn Sonata Op. 17 Rondo., horn part arranged for
trumpet, I am having trouble with the dynamics overwiting each other and
not lining up with each other. In the example below, my main concern is
that the hairpin decrescendo under the stacatto e eighths does not line
up with the crescendo hairpin preceeding it under the g-sharp eighth:

\version "2.4.3"

\paper {
#(set-paper-size "a5")
linewidth = 60\staffspace
indent = 0\mm
}

\transpose c c'{
#(set-accidental-style 'modern-cautionary)
\partial 2
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 2/2
\set Staff.midiInstrument = "trumpet"
\set Score.skipBars = ##t

g'4-\markup { \dynamic "mf" \italic \bold \bigger "espress." } g'
\noBreak \mark 6 g'2 f'8( e' d' cis') |
%79
\set Score.currentBarNumber = #79
\acciaccatura e'8 d'( cis' d' e') f'4-.(\< f'-.)\! | f'4.->(\> e'8) d'(
c' b a)\! |
<<
{ \stemNeutral gis( e') e'-. e'-. e'-. e'-. e'-. e'-. | }
{ s8\< s s s\! s\> s s s\! }
>>
e'2\< d'8( c' b a)\! | f'2.\sf \dim d'4( |
e') e'-.( e'-. e'-.) | \enddim a r r2 |
}

Stephen
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\version "2.4.3"

\paper {
#(set-paper-size "a5")
linewidth = 60\staffspace
indent = 0\mm
}

\transpose c c'{
#(set-accidental-style 'modern-cautionary)
\partial 2
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 2/2
\set Staff.midiInstrument = "trumpet"
\set Score.skipBars = ##t

g'4-\markup { \dynamic "mf" \italic \bold \bigger "espress." } g'
\noBreak \mark 6 g'2 f'8( e' d' cis') |
%79
\set Score.currentBarNumber = #79
\acciaccatura e'8 d'( cis' d' e') f'4-.(\< f'-.)\! | f'4.->(\> e'8) d'(
c' b a)\! | <<
{ \stemNeutral gis( e') e'-. e'-. e'-. e'-. e'-. e'-. | }
{ s8\< s s s\! s\> s s s\! }
>>

e'2\< d'8( c' b a)\! | f'2.\sf \dim d'4( | e') e'-.( e'-. e'-.) | \enddim
a r r2 | }

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Signal Processing
Signals, Sensors and Systems
Royal Institute of Technology
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\version "2.4.3"

\paper {
#(set-paper-size "a5")
linewidth = 60\staffspace
indent = 0\mm
}

\transpose c c'{
#(set-accidental-style 'modern-cautionary)
\partial 2
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 2/2
\set Staff.midiInstrument = "trumpet"
\set Score.skipBars = ##t

g'4-\markup { \dynamic "mf" \italic \bold \bigger "espress." } g'
\noBreak \mark 6 g'2 f'8( e' d' cis') |
%79
\set Score.currentBarNumber = #79

\acciaccatura e'8 d'( cis' d' e') f'4-.(\< f'-.)\! | f'4.->(\> e'8) d'( c' b a)\! | <<
        { gis( e') e'-. e'-. e'-. e'-. e'-. e'-. }

{ \override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f
          \override TupletBracket  #'number-visibility = ##f
s4\< s8 \times 2/3 { s s\> s } s s s\! }        % triplet allows
hairpins to meet in center of measure
>> |

e'2\< d'8( c' b a)\! | f'2.\sf \dim d'4( | e') e'-.( e'-. e'-.) | \enddim a r r2 | }


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=============================================
Mats Bengtsson
Signal Processing
Signals, Sensors and Systems
Royal Institute of Technology
SE-100 44  STOCKHOLM
Sweden
Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463
Fax:   (+46) 8 790 7260
WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe
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