Re: Update template for ancient music transcription

[Till Rettig]

Stefan Slapeta schrieb:
> Juergen Reuter wrote:
> > Instead, my idea of the ultimate way of incipit creation is to have 
> > an \incipit scheme function that automatically creates an incipit for 
> > a given music expression.  
> [...]
>
> I think this would be quite complicated as you have a lot more of 
> configuration than just setting a key signature etc.
> The incipit shall give an idea of how original sources look like, and 
> it certainly must have the complete range of functionality available 
> from printing ancient music.
[...]
> AFAICS, this is not in any way related to ancient time signatures in 
> lilypond as this problem is the same with modern ones (i.e. for 2/4 
> it's the same).
> However, maybe I should indeed use the \times workaround.
I have never really seen alla breve for 2/4 in modern notation -- to me 
the common use is really just 2/2 instead of 4/4. Some editions of 
ancient music from the beginning of the 20th century faced this by 
reducing the durations of the old notes in a way to get their modern 
common durations -- which is not so much obeyed now anymore. Instead, 
while you will need alla breve for 4/2 in 16th century music, you might 
want it for 4/1 (two breves) in 15th century music. I think it is not 
anyhow a bad way to use a "workaround" for this, since everything 
actually _is_ about time scaling. In my option it doesn't matter if 
there is a "proper" funktion that does the same, but in the background 
it just scales notes/bars. The only question would be: is it better to 
scale the bar or the note duration?
> > > can I achieve somehow that the ambitus is printed at a certain 
> > > place? (i.e. after the incipit!)
> >
> > No, this is currently not possible, since the ambitus is determined 
> > once per score.  Maybe Han-Wen is willing to implement kind of a 
> > "\resetAmbitus" feature, if someones sponsors it.
>
> It doesn't make much sense to print the ambitus as part of the 
> incipit, using ancient clefs etc., don't you think?
I think  in general the incipit isn't really part of the score. That is 
the reason why starting braces, ambitus and so on are printed only after 
the incipit. I recall in most editions there is actually even some space 
between the incipit systems and the actual system. That's way any way of 
seperating the incipit from the score appears even more to me to be the 
right solution for that.
I don't know what you can apply in front of the actual score: so far 
there is only the instrument name, I think. But if this could be made 
more general to include also any other engraving it might be a hook to 
apply the incipit to. I am not so sure though, how this incipit function 
should look like: there are more than one notation style, and it would 
be desireble to make all of them accessible. If they are at some point 
complete, this could be achieved with a \set before the incipit command.
In any case: if the incipit is not part of the score anymore there are 
no problems with the score anymore: settings can be defaults, because 
they don't have to be changed for the incipit. Also the bar numbering 
will work out of the box.

Till
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