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Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code
From: |
Johannes Schindelin |
Subject: |
Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code |
Date: |
Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:43:41 +0100 (CET) |
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Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) |
Hi,
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
> On Friday 16 January 2009 02:46:22 Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> > - the mentor is also expected to work almost full time at least in the
> > beginning,
>
> Sorry, but from my experience with mentoring KDE projects, this is not
> really true. It mostly depends on the student, of course, but the main
> point is that the student can easily contact the mentor (some short IRC
> sessions have proved to be extremely productive). The mentor doesn't
> have to be available full time or even work on the project full time. He
> rather needs to have a thorough knowledge of how to proceed and provide
> the correct pointers. The rest is usually figured out by the student
> anyway. At least these are my experiences.
And in my experience, the more complicated the source code is, the more
hand-holding will be required.
For example, Git's source code is not all that hard to read, yet I had to
invest a substantial amount of time during the first month to get my
students going.
Done right, the second half of the project is relaxing for the mentor.
Don't get me wrong: I'd love to see a GSoC project working on LilyPond, I
just don't see it happen for three reasons:
- it is relatively hard to come up with a project that is neither too
small nor too big for 3 months, from what I see in LilyPond,
- the natural mentor for any LilyPond project says he's not available, and
- Google announced that they want to _shrink_ the SoC this year, which
means LilyPond would compete with projects that already were in previous
GSoCs and actually wanted _more_ slots instead of _less_ slots. That is
pure politics, unfortunately.
Ciao,
Dscho
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, (continued)
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, Johannes Schindelin, 2009/01/14
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, Anne Ghisla, 2009/01/15
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, Jonathan Kulp, 2009/01/15
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, Johannes Schindelin, 2009/01/15
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, Han-Wen Nienhuys, 2009/01/15
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, Johannes Schindelin, 2009/01/15
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, Anne Ghisla, 2009/01/15
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, Graham Percival, 2009/01/15
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, Johannes Schindelin, 2009/01/15
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, Reinhold Kainhofer, 2009/01/16
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code,
Johannes Schindelin <=
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, Reinhold Kainhofer, 2009/01/16
- Ideas on the wiki, was Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, Johannes Schindelin, 2009/01/16
- Re: Ideas on the wiki, was Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, Reinhold Kainhofer, 2009/01/16
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, Anne Ghisla, 2009/01/16
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, Graham Percival, 2009/01/16
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, Johannes Schindelin, 2009/01/16
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, Graham Percival, 2009/01/16
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, Carl D. Sorensen, 2009/01/15
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, Joe Neeman, 2009/01/16
- Re: ideas for Google Summer of Code, David Kastrup, 2009/01/16