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Re: no movement on Critical issues; 2.16 in Oct ?
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Graham Percival |
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Re: no movement on Critical issues; 2.16 in Oct ? |
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Sun, 31 Jul 2011 01:18:27 -0700 |
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Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) |
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:04:59AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
> But this bug has been reported as occuring non-deterministically even in
> successive runs on the same machine, and there are rather few things
> that can introduce such stochastic behavior (another possibility would
> be timer-triggered garbage collection).
In C++ code, I'd suspect some uninitalized variables (especially
since it always seems to work on the second run on a machine that
failed in the first run). But since that throw() message seems to
come from guile, and AFAIK you can't have an unitalized variable
in guile, I guess that's not an issue? Or could we be setting a
guile variable from some (uninitalized) C++ variable?
It's a shame that we can't (usefully) run valgrind on lilypond, or
that nobody's experiented with llvm or even AFAIK the more
sophisticated gcc options. Finding uninitalized variables is a
task that can be done by the computer; humans should never need to
theorize about whether that's a cause or not. Just run the
program with a trusted tool, and then you'll either find the
variables, or else you can cross that off from the list of
possibilities.
Cheers,
- Graham
- no movement on Critical issues; 2.16 in Oct ?, Graham Percival, 2011/07/31
- Re: no movement on Critical issues; 2.16 in Oct ?, David Kastrup, 2011/07/31
- Re: no movement on Critical issues; 2.16 in Oct ?, Graham Percival, 2011/07/31
- Re: no movement on Critical issues; 2.16 in Oct ?, David Kastrup, 2011/07/31
- Re: no movement on Critical issues; 2.16 in Oct ?,
Graham Percival <=
- Re: no movement on Critical issues; 2.16 in Oct ?, David Kastrup, 2011/07/31
- Re: no movement on Critical issues; 2.16 in Oct ?, Graham Percival, 2011/07/31
- Re: no movement on Critical issues; 2.16 in Oct ?, David Kastrup, 2011/07/31
- Re: no movement on Critical issues; 2.16 in Oct ?, Wols Lists, 2011/07/31
- Re: no movement on Critical issues; 2.16 in Oct ?, David Kastrup, 2011/07/31
- Re: no movement on Critical issues; 2.16 in Oct ?, David Kastrup, 2011/07/31
- Re: no movement on Critical issues; 2.16 in Oct ?, Jan WarchoĊ, 2011/07/31
Re: no movement on Critical issues; 2.16 in Oct ?, Trevor Daniels, 2011/07/31
Re: no movement on Critical issues; 2.16 in Oct ?, Reinhold Kainhofer, 2011/07/31