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Re: scm_local_eval is not available in Guile V2.

From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: scm_local_eval is not available in Guile V2.
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:07:10 +0100
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Ian Hulin <address@hidden> writes:

> Hi David,
>> <URL:>
>> Accompanying patch is relative to staging currently.  This should
>> get you going again.  I don't particularly like this approach, and
>> it is more complex and error-prone, and likely slower than the
>> original version.  But without access to procedure-environments, I
>> see no simpler way out here.
> Thank you very much for getting on to this so quickly. I started
> having a look at the Guile V1.8.7 code to see if we could "borrow" it
> to put in our code base, but it looks like they've done some janitor
> work with the code in addition to changing the name of the underlying
> internal routine from scm-i-eval to eval.
> However, it may be work asking if the Guile team would be up to
> supplying an unsupported (from their end) version which we could
> stitch in to our code-base.

Well, getting a procedure-environment would appear to be incompatible
with optimized compilation of the function containing #{ ... #}.  It
would have to be executed in a mostly interpreted environment.  But
since #{ ... #} itself calls the lexer and parser, this would be a
non-issue except when the function does extensive loops before executing
a single #{ ... #} statement.

> Andy and Ludo were quite helpful with providing us with a back-ported
> module-export-all! when ly_make_module was in danger of breaking.
> Would it be worth asking on guile-user about a private copy of a
> ported scm_local_eval?

I think it would likely be incompatible with the compilation model of
Guile V2.  scm_local_eval alone does not do the trick: you also need
something to feed it with, namely the result of calling
procedure-environment.  I don't think you can get _that_ without having
a whole interpreter built around it.  It is not a general Scheme feature
but was specific to Guile, and I doubt it will come back.

David Kastrup

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