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Re: es means ees???
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David Kastrup |
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Re: es means ees??? |
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Tue, 07 Oct 2014 09:50:33 +0200 |
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Richard Shann <address@hidden> writes:
> On Tue, 2014-10-07 at 11:04 +0900, Graham Percival wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 01:41:30PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
>> > Richard Shann <address@hidden> writes:
>> >
>> > > Here, instead of ees, is written es.
>> >
>> > I read
>> >
>> > In Dutch, aes is contracted to as, but both forms are accepted in
>> > LilyPond. Similarly, both es and ees are accepted. This also applies
>> > to aeses / ases and eeses / eses. Sometimes only these contracted
>> > names are defined in the corresponding language files.
>>
>> Yes. In case anybody was wondering, I deliberately moved the "as"
>> and "es" contractions from the tutorial into the NR ages ago. For
>> people unfamiliar with that notation, it's easier to remember
>> "letter name plus -es or -is" rather than introducing all the
>> contractions.
>
> That was a good idea I think. What is unfortunate is that the default
> includes these contractions,
Uh, the contractions are the _proper_ names. The non-contractions are
not correct note names in any language.
> with hindsight it might have been better to have the default be the
> simplest set of names with those that wanted to use the contractions
> including a language specific file (e.g. nederlands).
I disagree. There is nothing to be gained from using a notename
language nobody uses. If we wanted that, we could take numbers. I see
ees and aes more as a concession to computer-transliterated music than
to humans. Now of course your main concern via Denemo _is_
computer-transliterated music but that does not mean that everybody
else's music should look that way.
> But this is a very minor thing, perhaps as a matter of style the ly
> directory code should avoid the contractions?
I'd consider that bad style. Again, the "contractions" are not sloppy
writing or anything. They are the _proper_ German and Dutch note names.
That's like stating for some hypothetical computer language we should
not have
Variable x is y, was z
Variable x has grue, had worm
but rather
Variable x is y, ised z
Variable x has grue, hased worm
because it is more regular and easier to get for non-English speakers.
--
David Kastrup
- es means ees???, Richard Shann, 2014/10/06
- Re: es means ees???, David Kastrup, 2014/10/06
- Re: es means ees???, Richard Shann, 2014/10/06
- Re: es means ees???, Graham Percival, 2014/10/06
- Re: es means ees???, Richard Shann, 2014/10/07
- Re: es means ees???,
David Kastrup <=
- Re: es means ees???, Richard Shann, 2014/10/07
- Re: es means ees???, David Kastrup, 2014/10/07
- Re: es means ees???, Richard Shann, 2014/10/07
- Re: es means ees???, David Kastrup, 2014/10/07
- Re: es means ees???, Richard Shann, 2014/10/07
- Re: es means ees???, David Kastrup, 2014/10/07
- Re: es means ees???, Hans Aberg, 2014/10/07
Re: es means ees???, address@hidden, 2014/10/06
Re: es means ees???, Abraham Lee, 2014/10/06