From: Mats Bengtsson <address@hidden>
To: Neil Killeen <address@hidden>
CC: address@hidden
Subject: Re: Lyrics, ties, extenders and hyphens
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 10:17:52 +0200
I have now checked an authoritative book ("Noter" by Börje Tyboni,
unfortunately only available in Swedish). It turns out that you
can have extender lines also for tied over notes, not only for
melismas. The rule is rather that you should only use an extender line
if there is a wide space to the next syllable.
My answers for 2) and 3) seem correct, though.
/Mats
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
I don't have any book on music typesetting practice available
in front of me right now, but will try some advanced guesses
anyway.
Neil Killeen wrote:
Hi
1) what is the correct thing to do with a lyric and a tie ?
Should one use an extender like with a melisma ? Thus
a~ a
Fish __
Lilypond seems tolerant if I don't add the extender
a~ a
Fish
I would only use extender lines for melismas, not for ties.
2) Also, I am finding extenders and hyphens get mixed up if I do extend
ties.
E.g.
a1~ | a1 | es1~ | es1
Moun __ -- tains
What I see after type setting is something like
/--------------\ /-----------\
o o o o
_ _ <- First hyphen
overlaps with extender
Moun______ tains_____
I think it's normal to only use hyphens in such a situation and no
extender lines.
3) Finally, on a matter of style of lyrics and punctuation. Is it good
style to
see punctuation (e.g. a full stop or comma) before an extender ?
E.g.
a~ a
Fish. __
If not, what should one do ? Leave out the punctuation or try and
poke it in after the extender somehow ?
The punctuation before the extender seems reasonable.
/Mats
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